Official Conroe information thread - Page 13

i||uSi0n^ · 05-19-2006, 01:03 PM

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**Sandog** · 05-19-2006, 02:46 PM

Let the good times roll!!!

**Sandog** · 05-21-2006, 12:08 PM

WOW!!!

5160 - 3.00 GHz clock, 1333 MHz FSB, $851 per 1K CPU //Available June 19th

It takes four dual-core Opterons to beat this chip not to forget it will have a TDP of around 65W.

"However, while the Woodcrest CPU is a monster, that's only in single and dual socket terms. The 1066/1333 MHz Front Side Bus kicks everything in single and dual socket configurations, but not by four dual core Opterons."

This may be the chip to get vs. the Conroe EE. What problems do you guys see using this vs. a Conroe? I'm not sure the pin layout but if it goes in the D975XBX that would be awesome.

h20-ski · 05-21-2006, 01:13 PM

Woodcrest will be on LGA771, so a completely different socket from Xeons now. Although there has been much talk about an enthusiast Woodcrest motherboard much like what the PC-DL is for the old Xeons.

**Sandog** · 05-21-2006, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h20-ski

Woodcrest will be on LGA771, so a completely different socket from Xeons now. Although there has been much talk about an enthusiast Woodcrest motherboard much like what the PC-DL is for the old Xeons.

I believe there may be several Intel enthusiast possibilities on the horizon.

ConroeEE + D975XBX (newer version)
Woodcrest + new mobo
Quad Core + new mobo

All with in a year. Intel appears to have such a fast new architecture that it will apply easily to the enthusiast market and Intel will have to have a benchmark bragging rights solution intended to beat AMD. Intel also appears to be pricing these new chips modestly intending to garner a lot of market share. I think they will take back what AMD took from them plus the market is always growing anyway. AMD is going to be getting real nostalgic soon and I believe they will be holding on to Intels coattails again for a long long time.

**Sandog** · 05-22-2006, 03:15 PM

I got word that Conroe EE will be available on or right after launch of Core Duo this June/July. The EE will be at 2.93GHz/1066FSB, has HT, and does a 3.6GHz OC easily on air. Details should appear about the second week of June which is very very soon if you don't realize. Life is too good for me right now.

**pointreyes** · 05-22-2006, 03:33 PM

When the Conroe comes out, is Intel planning to reduce the prices on the 9xx series by a considerably margin? It appears rather bleak to consider the Conroe for my 955 mobo and I have a store credit of $200 at Monarch so I was hoping to get the 950 for $250. This will pretty much protect me with hardware situations for the next three to five years. There's no way I can afford a Conroe + motherboard for the same price that can deliver the power I need for video encoding.

Update: Looks like the 950 might be possible for $250.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04...icing_details/

**Sandog** · 05-22-2006, 06:34 PM

Pointreyes, the 900 series newer core are very good processors. I still want the 965EE.

Intel_User · 05-23-2006, 02:41 AM

Remember how Clovertown, the 4 core based Merom-derived CPU was thought to be 130W?? Not really.

Quote:

We don't yet have any word on clock speeds, but Intel is targeting a TDP of 80 W for most Clovertown processors, while the top performance model should come in at 120 W.

Information from Tech-Report along with Woodcrest 3.0GHz benchmarks.

Intel_User · 05-23-2006, 04:40 AM

IT'S OFFICIAL!!! Core 2 Duo, WILL be the fastest CPU, by a WIDE margin: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5692&page=1

39.5% advantage of Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz/1066MHz FSB/4MB L2 over AM2 Athlon 64 FX-62 2.8GHz using DDR2-800 memory, in Farcry. 29.8% advantage of E6600 over the same AM2 FX-62.

34% advantage of E6700 over S939 FX-60. 24.7% of E6600 over S939 FX-60.

The rest of the games are 1600x1600 with 4x AA 16x AF, which isn't really good CPU comparison. The fact that there is still couple of % improvement shows the power of the CPU.

People who actually care about gameplay, or those that play competitively will play at resolutions that Conroe has vast advantage at.

I am happy.

Intel_User · 05-23-2006, 04:49 AM

On the other hand, it looks like the Core 2 Duo might be a bit memory bandwidth limited. One can imagine the performance with integrated memory controllers.

Intel_User · 05-23-2006, 09:58 AM

Looks like the info on the tweakers.net site may be wrong or not fully shown for some of Conroe CPUs, as E6400 out in the wild is all 4MB L2.
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/41855/?highlight=conroe

A comprehensive Conroe benchmark:
http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalu...05/791941.html

Summary: Core 2 Duo E6400(2.13GHz/4MB L2/1066MHz FSB), using 946GZ chipset, which is a value version of
965, is faster than Athlon FX-60 at 2.6GHz in nearly every benchmark.

**Sandog** · 05-23-2006, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intel_User

Looks like the info on the tweakers.net site may be wrong or not fully shown for some of Conroe CPUs, as E6400 out in the wild is all 4MB L2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intel_User

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/41855/?highlight=conroe

A comprehensive Conroe benchmark:
http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalu...05/791941.html

Summary: Core 2 Duo E6400(2.13GHz/4MB L2/1066MHz FSB), using 946GZ chipset, which is a value version of
965, is faster than Athlon FX-60 at 2.6GHz in nearly every benchmark.

That has to really hurt. A 2.13GHz part beating AMD's top of the line FX part so easily. What will the 2.67GHz Conroe or better yet the 3.0EE which is said to OC to 3.6GHz do? How much will the FX-60 cost in 3mos? $399? I feel so sad for AMD, I really do.

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Eldonko · 05-23-2006, 02:27 PM

You will probably see a bunch of AMD guys in here soon, at least in the short term anyway

**Sandog** · 05-23-2006, 04:04 PM

Hey Eldonko, long time no see.

I am looking forward to seeing these threads grow in ABX. You can never have too many people in here and the more we get the stronger we become. We are off to a good start with solid members who know more about Conroe than anybody plus there are plenty of helpful Intel mobo users around here. Once people start tasting Intel mobo's they will be happier and have more time to post their happy posts in ABXZone. In reality, there will be tons of news, updates, and goings on about Intel Core Duo and associated mobo's to post about. There will also be a commonality between a lot of the members who will be using Intel chipsets and processors plus there should be a large influx of new members in the Intel chipset threads. Once you start helping people they will stick around and repay you just as I and others have done. ABXZone should become bigger and better than ever.

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05-21-2006, 12:08 PM	#183
Sandog DP45SG/Q9650 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 6,199	WOW!!! 5160 - 3.00 GHz clock, 1333 MHz FSB, $851 per 1K CPU //Available June 19th It takes four dual-core Opterons to beat this chip not to forget it will have a TDP of around 65W. "However, while the Woodcrest CPU is a monster, that's only in single and dual socket terms. The 1066/1333 MHz Front Side Bus kicks everything in single and dual socket configurations, but not by four dual core Opterons." This may be the chip to get vs. the Conroe EE. What problems do you guys see using this vs. a Conroe? I'm not sure the pin layout but if it goes in the D975XBX that would be awesome. __________________
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05-21-2006, 01:13 PM	#184
h20-ski Forget Wakeboarding Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,460	Woodcrest will be on LGA771, so a completely different socket from Xeons now. Although there has been much talk about an enthusiast Woodcrest motherboard much like what the PC-DL is for the old Xeons. __________________
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05-22-2006, 03:15 PM	#186
Sandog DP45SG/Q9650 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 6,199	I got word that Conroe EE will be available on or right after launch of Core Duo this June/July. The EE will be at 2.93GHz/1066FSB, has HT, and does a 3.6GHz OC easily on air. Details should appear about the second week of June which is very very soon if you don't realize. Life is too good for me right now. __________________
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05-22-2006, 03:33 PM	#187
pointreyes The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march. Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,159	When the Conroe comes out, is Intel planning to reduce the prices on the 9xx series by a considerably margin? It appears rather bleak to consider the Conroe for my 955 mobo and I have a store credit of $200 at Monarch so I was hoping to get the 950 for $250. This will pretty much protect me with hardware situations for the next three to five years. There's no way I can afford a Conroe + motherboard for the same price that can deliver the power I need for video encoding. Update: Looks like the 950 might be possible for $250. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04...icing_details/ __________________
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05-22-2006, 06:34 PM	#188
Sandog DP45SG/Q9650 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 6,199	Pointreyes, the 900 series newer core are very good processors. I still want the 965EE. __________________
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05-23-2006, 04:40 AM	#190
Intel_User Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Surrey, BC Posts: 445	IT'S OFFICIAL!!! Core 2 Duo, WILL be the fastest CPU, by a WIDE margin: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5692&page=1 39.5% advantage of Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz/1066MHz FSB/4MB L2 over AM2 Athlon 64 FX-62 2.8GHz using DDR2-800 memory, in Farcry. 29.8% advantage of E6600 over the same AM2 FX-62. 34% advantage of E6700 over S939 FX-60. 24.7% of E6600 over S939 FX-60. The rest of the games are 1600x1600 with 4x AA 16x AF, which isn't really good CPU comparison. The fact that there is still couple of % improvement shows the power of the CPU. People who actually care about gameplay, or those that play competitively will play at resolutions that Conroe has vast advantage at. I am happy.
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Intel_User Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Surrey, BC Posts: 445	On the other hand, it looks like the Core 2 Duo might be a bit memory bandwidth limited. One can imagine the performance with integrated memory controllers.
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05-23-2006, 09:58 AM	#192
Intel_User Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Surrey, BC Posts: 445	Looks like the info on the tweakers.net site may be wrong or not fully shown for some of Conroe CPUs, as E6400 out in the wild is all 4MB L2. http://tweakers.net/nieuws/41855/?highlight=conroe A comprehensive Conroe benchmark: http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalu...05/791941.html Summary: Core 2 Duo E6400(2.13GHz/4MB L2/1066MHz FSB), using 946GZ chipset, which is a value version of 965, is faster than Athlon FX-60 at 2.6GHz in nearly every benchmark.
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05-23-2006, 04:04 PM	#195
Sandog DP45SG/Q9650 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 6,199	Hey Eldonko, long time no see. I am looking forward to seeing these threads grow in ABX. You can never have too many people in here and the more we get the stronger we become. We are off to a good start with solid members who know more about Conroe than anybody plus there are plenty of helpful Intel mobo users around here. Once people start tasting Intel mobo's they will be happier and have more time to post their happy posts in ABXZone. In reality, there will be tons of news, updates, and goings on about Intel Core Duo and associated mobo's to post about. There will also be a commonality between a lot of the members who will be using Intel chipsets and processors plus there should be a large influx of new members in the Intel chipset threads. Once you start helping people they will stick around and repay you just as I and others have done. ABXZone should become bigger and better than ever. __________________
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