Please help me get this cC0 700E past 1000

[patentman]

It seems that you done a good job for air circulation,but do you have only one 245W power supply running system and fans?1Ghz system with powerfull vga card needs at least 300W.that`s the +11.3V reading(low-should be ~11.5-11.6V(use another ps for system)
Yes drop in Vcore is directly related to heat.More Mhz speed=more moving electrons=more heat/energy waisted to heat.(can`t give a better explaination).
Recheck how HS contacts and don`t use any pads.
(not yet?).

The first thing to do is to try a good power supply for system.The second is thermal compound on greenie (not yet?).

Take a friend`s 700E to test with your system but remember you are running higher temps that other 700E@1000+
What is your ambient temp?(24C good 30 bad)

[rdmpe]

Yep, only one 245 watt psu. Funny tho, bios reads +11.8 or so, where mbm5 reads +11.3. Would +12 change so much from bios to windows? I'm sure a better psu would help. I see this on pricewatch.com:

$56 + shipping / handling
Enermax EG351P-VE
330 watt Switching power supply
Approved by AMD! P4 Pentium 4 ready
Dual cooling fan design : G9cm fan intake heat, 8cm exhaust hot air
Meet AMD K7 and Intel 2.03 Version

Dumb question: Do all atx psu's fit in the same space? Can I be sure it'll fit where my AOpen atx psu is now?

You say to recheck hsf / cpu contact and don't use the little foam pads? I am worried about the hsf being crooked and cracking the corner of the core. Happens to tbirds I know... What about those copper shim plates - junk or not?

Haven't put thermal compound under greenie yet. I had a TENNMAX BGA cooler on my northbridge chip on my old asus p2b-f. It doesn't fit on the cusl2-c tho. They said they'd exchange it for me for $7, so when I get that, the northbridge chip will be nice and cool. Have you seen these? www.tennmax.com/443bx/agp_cooler.htm

I don't have any friends with 700E to try in my box
Most comp users I know around here are scared to o/c. Had a guy at a computer store tell me "you just THINK your pII450 is running at 518. Pentiums CAN'T be overclocked." Some people have their head in the sand!!!

Well, here is some temperature data for my cpu.
Ambient 26C for all data shown, fan pulling air off hs, cpu at full load.
Alpha pal6035 w/cheap compound and YStech fan (~24 cfm?)

Vcore / MHz / Temp
1.70 / 700 / 40
1.85 / 700 / 41
1.85 / 966 / 45
2.00 / 700 / 44
2.00 / 966 / 48
2.00 / 1000 / 48 to 49

Had same temps or 0.5 higher with fan blowing into hs. Essentially the same temps.
Currently running at 34C, 1.7 vcore, 700MHz, no software cooling involved.
Seems a little high, should I be alarmed that my hsf is not functioning properly?

[patentman]

Yeh,go for a power supply(ask them if it can fit) and power all fans except HSF`s.
I think you can turn on an ATX supply by grounding the grey wire (the third wire from the left, looking at the power plug from the back i.e., the side without the clip, and with the wires coming out from the top). One way to do this is to plug in the power supply, put a paper clip in to the plug corresponding to the grey wire, then touch the paper clip to the computer case, or the outside of the power supply. The power supply should turn on(see p.41 of CUSL2`s book).Or try a parallel connection of the grey wires( of both psu) but I haven`t tried as I power fans/peltier/pump by 3 250W AT power supplies(13.7V).
I insist on thermal compound at grennie but not for a replacement of heatsink as it doesn`t needed up to 168fsb I have tested.
Your 700Mhz temp is very high compared to my

@800Mhz stock HSF & stock thermal pad =40C ambient 29C bios 1003final probe
@840Mhz Global win FKP32 YStech 26CFM cheapy thermal comp =38C ambient 28C bios 1003final probe
You should also post for your HSF`s temps at cooling section for that.
I haven`t tried a copper shim as a bad fit can make worse.
Is the cpu fan reading at about 4900-4500rpm?(full load)
By the way if your temps are correctly shown that thing could break the 1.2Ghz barrier at 10C or so.

[patentman]

Sorry,
power all fans except HSF`s with old power supply

[rdmpe]

Well, I think I'd rather have one 400w psu's than have two, cuz I have nowhere to put it. Can't fit it in my mid-tower case. Will look into putting it on back or something, we'll see.

I think my temps are too high cuz I put thermal compound on very very thin. Maybe too thin. You could see thru it. I need to take it off, do the wire trick and put back on with a little bit more compound I think.

[garnet_abx]

My Enermax 430 fit perfectly in place of the stock power supply in my Antec full tower. I expect it would fit in your case with no problem.

[rdmpe]

I almost bought one of those just now, but decided to wait. Another person was telling me that his +12 voltage reads +11.3 to +11.4 too, on his 300W psu. Mine is 245W. So maybe it is a quirk with mbm5? Sandra reads them the same tho.

If I order an expensive psu, I'll be po'd if I get the same voltage readings. Something is up with this monitoring chip anyway, cuz any monitors (asus, mbm) will start reading wrong (zero) temps, volts, etc. and then your machine doesn't shut down right. Heard of a bunch of ppl with this prob.

So I want to wait and get some more input on the psu thing before spending ~$100 on it.

I did order a delta blacklabel siren - err - I mean fan, and some arctic $ilver II and some other misc. junk. I am convinced my temperatures are higher than they should be for this hsf.

[Utahusker]

Get the 431 watt Enermax for sure, you won't be sorry. The power you are reading on mbm ect. is not all you should worry about, it is the "overhead" power you get from having a 300+ watt p/s that gives you the stability. You may just have to give in and accept that you have a chip that isn't that overclockable. I'ts always a crapshoot with any chip, cbo, cco, ect. I happened to get lucky with my cbo, it runs cool and stable without much tweaking. I also have 128 mb each of Mushkin and Corsair ram and niether will run stable @ 2-2-2 above 136 fsb. I must set them at 2-3-2 7/9 to run stable, I was unlucky in the ram section . I have had no other computer as stable as this config. I am running now, overclocked or not. I haven't had a bsod for months.
p.s. I have a brand new, never used 300 watt p/s that came in my RMK case if you're interested. I would seriously look into the Enermax though, if your interested in o'clocking and upgrading in the future.
Good Luck

[rdmpe]

You seem to have a pretty full system. In mbm5 / sandra are all of your voltage readings coming out near optimal (+-12V, 5V, etc.)? Or do you show some low also? I'm just wondering if there is an issue with the monitoring chip in this mobo.

Thanks.

[patentman]

Aspenhusker is right:
"The power you are reading on mbm ect. is not all you should worry about, it is the "overhead" power you get from having a 300+ watt p/s that gives you the stability"

Less drops/peaks and better signal noise ratio as well better DC convertion.
PIII 700 needs 14A while 1000 needs 20.8(consuption)
The difference is a pretty stress for a small psu that can hardly hadle a typical system(245W was enough for up to 600Mhz and slower Vga cards with less consuption).
Anyway it`s worth the extra money more than artic for your system
Consider that P4 and Athlon must have large wattage psu to feed the monster and think of an amplifier rated @100W and powered by 50W.Still can play songs but not loud and crisp.

[rdmpe]

Yep, gonna go for the enermax 430 watt I think. Thank the feds for stealing my money all year. At least I have some now for this stuff!

Anything better than the enermax? I heard of a sparkle psu that has pots on it for adjusting the voltage!