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Old 03-13-2007, 01:33 PM   #1
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results and suggestions E6600.


My stable results see system below

CPU 3.5 with 4-4-4-12-1T

CPU 3.5 with 4-4-4-10-1T

CPU 3.5 with 4-4-4-8-1T

or:

CPU 3.5 with 3-3-3-12-2T

CPU 3.5 with 3-3-3-10-2T

CPU 3.5 with 3-3-3-8-2T

All with 1.41 Vcore
FSP 1.5V
SPP 1.5V
Mem.Volt >> 2.200
Idle 41C and Load 56C (highest)

What would be the best combination for Games ????..or isn't there any

Advanced mem-settings : 3-24-5-9-78us...any settings to gain some performance ??

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My stable results see system below

CPU 3.5 with 4-4-4-12-1T

CPU 3.5 with 4-4-4-10-1T

CPU 3.5 with 4-4-4-8-1T

or:

CPU 3.5 with 3-3-3-12-2T

CPU 3.5 with 3-3-3-10-2T

CPU 3.5 with 3-3-3-8-2T

All with 1.41 Vcore
FSP 1.5V
SPP 1.5V
Mem.Volt >> 2.200
Idle 41C and Load 56C (highest)

What would be the best combination for Games ????..or isn't there any

Advanced mem-settings : 3-24-5-9-78us...any settings to gain some performance ??

hansje

What's your FSBs for those results??

What's your ratio (1:1) (2:3) (4:5)?

What strap??

Higher FSB with tighter timings and say a 2:3 ratio would probably be the best as that would force the RAM to run at higher speeds.

But I doubt you'll get ANY Ram at Cas 3 when you get it into the range of 400actual ram speed----lets just call it DDR

More likely 4-4-4-12-2T-----and 5-5-5-15 when you start hitting say 550 DDR
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FSB LINKED/SYNC mode 1556...with the 1:1 ratio
Mem: 778.0

What's strap...I forgot

Did a 3Dmark 06 test, all around 11200

Is 1:1 not always the best option ??

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FSB LINKED/SYNC mode 1556...with the 1:1 ratio
Mem: 778.0

What's strap...I forgot

Did a 3Dmark 06 test, all around 11200

hansje

FSB 1556 = True FSB of 389

Means your running 389 x Multi 9 with an E6600

1:1 means you are running 533 strap

778 / 2 = memory speed of 389 DDR

You could probably run the RAM much faster at a ratio of 2:3 (1066 Strap) but with less tighter settings maybe 4-4-4-12-2T or 5-5-5-15-2T

Here's the long way to compute it...

At 2:3 Ratio---Actual Ram Speed = FSB 389 x 2---/2----x 3----/2

Or 389 x 2 = 718 718 / 2=389 389 x 3 = 1167 1167/ 2 = 583DDR versus the 389 DDR you are running now....

Ram Voltage needs to be at 2.2 or a shade better

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Woow, need some time till that info reached my brains
Not such an expert you know !!

I shall try the 2:3 ratio.

Thanks for helping

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Old 03-13-2007, 03:39 PM   #6
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CPUz reads this :

5-5-5-15-2T
With 4-4-4-12-2T I got beeps !!!!

Freq: 583.5 mhz

FSB: 2:3

This is what you mean ??
Wiil this give with 3.5 better performance then with 1:1 ??

Edit, just tried GTR2 (RaceSim)...I have got some nice extra FPS with this, I think around 7FPS more, nice

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With this I need even a little more than 2.3 Mem Volt.

I have a very nice case-air-flow...but 2.3 and a little more, isn't that to much for those sticks ??

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Maybe

----depends on your case and air flow-----you don't want the ram hot to the touch-----warm is prpbably fine

Run memtest for 2-3 hours----if it passes without errors....

and you don't anticipate large changes in ambient temp in the room you will place your computer----you are probably fine.

you could also lower the multi to 8x or 7x----raise the FSB and go to a 4:5 Ratio (667 Strap)

Might get you the same CPU overclock with a little less stress on the RAM. 583 mghz is pretty good....

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With this I need even a little more than 2.3 Mem Volt.

I have a very nice case-air-flow...but 2.3 and a little more, isn't that to much for those sticks ??

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I will give it a try.......thanks

I will keep you informed, maybe I need some more help !!

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I will give it a try.......thanks

I will keep you informed, maybe I need some more help !!

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Little problems to figure this out..4:5 ratio.

This is what I see BIOS:

CPU Freq. 3501.2
Multiplier 9X

FSB-Mem >> UNLINKED
RATIO >> auto

FSB 1556
Mem 1167

So I have to change the multiplier say X8..what to change to get 4:5
If I change the multiplier I have to raise the FSB to get 3.5 again, so far I can follow

Thanks !!

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CPU Freq. 3501.2
Multiplier 9X
FSB-Mem >> UNLINKED
RATIO >> auto
FSB 1556
Mem 1167

Did some testing with 1.42 Vcore and 2.250 Mem.volt. (thats what I need to get it stable without errors)
So I am able to stay below the 2.3 Mem.volt

Two hours of Mem/test...NO ERRORS

Test 5 I did 5 times...NO ERRORS

New, so the latest OCCT, for one hour (CPU/Mem-test)...NO ERRORS
OCCT Website english
Forgot, highest TEMP. during this test 57C..after that IDLE 41C..any good ??

3Dmark several times 06 version...NO ERRORS

So far so good

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So I have to change the multiplier say X8..what to change to get 4:5
If I change the multiplier I have to raise the FSB to get 3.5 again, so far I can follow

Thanks !!

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FSB to 438 --------as 438 x 8 = 3504 or 3.5Ghz

FSB x 2 = 876

876 /4 = 219

219 x 5 = 1095

1095 /2 = 547.5 (let's round up to 548) True mghtz memory speed

And with that speed you may be able to relax your voltage----as well as tighten the timings back to 4-4-4-12-2T

667 strap would give you the 4:5 ratio

there is no "right" anser to this hansje----what you want is the Highest FSB that your CPU will run stable with stable RAM settings at the tightest timings.....

There is an old rule of thumb though----always go for the highest CPU overclock----then consider what must be done to overclock your RAM.

The latest craze with DDR2 and the Core2 Duos is to NOT run syncronously like the old days with Northwood Intel P4s where 1:1 ratio PAT and GAT gave you (usually) the best benches

Instead to run asynchchronously with a ratio that permits the RAM to run FASTER than the CPU----hence the change from 2:3 ratios vice the old days of 3:2 where your Ram ran SLOWER than spec----same with 4:5 and the old 5:4.
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CPU Freq. 3501.2
Multiplier 9X
FSB-Mem >> UNLINKED
RATIO >> auto
FSB 1556
Mem 1167

Did some testing with 1.42 Vcore and 2.250 Mem.volt. (thats what I need to get it stable without errors)
So I am able to stay below the 2.3 Mem.volt

Two hours of Mem/test...NO ERRORS

Test 5 I did 5 times...NO ERRORS

New, so the latest OCCT, for one hour (CPU/Mem-test)...NO ERRORS
OCCT Website english
Forgot, highest TEMP. during this test 57C..after that IDLE 41C..any good ??

3Dmark several times 06 version...NO ERRORS

So far so good

Hans.
That looks pretty good Hans----temps seem fine.

Your CPU overclock looks solid-----I think your challenge lies in what you can get out of the RAM
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3.5 CPU with 1.42 Vcore is the highest I get...so only overclocking the CPU. (leaving the RAM out of it)
3.6 seems a NO NO, but I am happy with 3.5 stable


I will give that 4:5 ratio a try and try 4-4-4-12-2T.

THANKS !!!!!

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