Are there any mATX mobos with Firewire?

Dk975 · 03-15-2006, 10:27 PM

I am trying to piece together a cheap system for Linux. I have a Asus P4P800-E (BTW still for sale) received from an RMA but don't want to build a big system. I am looking at a Chenming MATX-118 case and need a Socket 478 mobo that supports Northwood C and has AGP slot, 2x SATA and firewire (headers are okay). At this point chipset doesn't matter too much. How are the VIA chipsets for this platform, PT800? The only mobo that seems to fit this is a FIC P4M-800T. Anybody know where to even get these? I looked on ebay, price {watch, grabber} and no luck.

Protoplasm72 · 03-15-2006, 11:20 PM

I couldn't fine one with all those options either. Best bet is to get one without firewire and just use an add-in card. They cost less than $20. Unless you need all 3 pci slots for something else.

3 of 7 · 03-15-2006, 11:46 PM

Wow, I looked around too..next to nothing out there...suprized me!

flex22 · 03-16-2006, 06:38 AM

you know that bites.

they should have to do like the car mfg. when they discontinue a model they have to have 5 yrs replacement parts available.

Intel should have the same standards. if nothing else they would sell a few more mobs.
if this board goes i"m setting here with 2.8E as a paper weight. :eek:

3 of 7 · 03-16-2006, 09:15 AM

It looks like we're going to have to learn to solder...

Dk975 · 03-16-2006, 07:21 PM

I found a good mobo, Asus P4RD1-MX, http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l...71&modelmenu=1

that has SATA, socket 478 and decent X300 graphics (remember, low cost, but with PCIe slot to upgrade), dual channel DDR400 and Xpress 200 chipset. Add in a firewire PCI card I guess. Have they ironed out the problems with the Xpress 200 chipset? I believe it was with USB, right? The only problem is where to find this mobo in the US? It looks like it is in Europe and Canada only.

JoeFrat · 03-16-2006, 08:22 PM

How about looking at the p4p800-vm? I think you can still get them...

3 of 7 · 03-16-2006, 08:36 PM

I just got myself a P4P800- SE nice board but no firewire..

BoWevil_abx · 03-17-2006, 06:01 AM

Take a look at Foxconn motherboards. I built 2 systems for my own use using Foxconn and I know that they have the Firewire headers, but I am not sure about them having 2 sata connections. I will check out the documentation in a while and will post back about that.

Edit: the Foxconn 865M01-G-6ELS supports 2 SATA devices, and has 2 firewire headers and 8 USB 2.0 slots. It is a micro ATA board.

Dk975 · 03-17-2006, 04:26 PM

You know I've done some number crunching and it is cheaper for me to sell off both the P4P800-E and 2.6c and build a socket 939 system. It would look like this:

Chenming MATX-118 or Aspire QPack case $76
MSI K8NGM2-FID (with 6200 graphics, sound, lan, FIREWIRE) $80
LiteOn DVD burner $35
AMD 3000+ Venice Retail $135
1GB Corsair VS $65

Then I'll use a WD 80GB IDE drive I have in an enclosure, spare KB, mouse.

There are fewer extras to buy with this system, plus it has a decent upgrade path until socket 939 cpus run dry. As for a monitor? I don't want to buy a Video switcher with lousy quality, so just swap the cable from one system to another.

**pointreyes** · 03-17-2006, 04:37 PM

Or you could get this Asus and a cheap Celeron-D proc.

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...ID1-DT&cat=SYS

Comes with firewire and even a 7-in-1 card reader.

03-15-2006, 10:27 PM	#1
Dk975 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 530	Are there any mATX mobos with Firewire? I am trying to piece together a cheap system for Linux. I have a Asus P4P800-E (BTW still for sale) received from an RMA but don't want to build a big system. I am looking at a Chenming MATX-118 case and need a Socket 478 mobo that supports Northwood C and has AGP slot, 2x SATA and firewire (headers are okay). At this point chipset doesn't matter too much. How are the VIA chipsets for this platform, PT800? The only mobo that seems to fit this is a FIC P4M-800T. Anybody know where to even get these? I looked on ebay, price {watch, grabber} and no luck. __________________ MainPC: C2D E6750 \| GA-G33M-DS2R bios F7 \| G.Skill HK 2x2GB DDR2-800 @ 4-4-4-12 \| Sapphire HD4670 512MB \| VisionTek T550Pro \| WinXP Home SP2 \| WD250KS \| WD250JS \| LiteOn 201AS \| Enermax Liberty 500W \| Antec NSK4400 \| Samsung 2253LW 22" LCD Laptop: Lenovo T61 15.4" WXGA \| C2D T8300 \| 2x1GB DDR2-667 @ 5-5-5-15 \| Nvidia Quadro 140M 128MB \| Vista HP SP1 \| 120GB 5400 \| 8X DVDRW Heatware : duke975
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03-15-2006, 11:20 PM	#2
Protoplasm72 Mmmm..... Folding@Home Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,298	I couldn't fine one with all those options either. Best bet is to get one without firewire and just use an add-in card. They cost less than $20. Unless you need all 3 pci slots for something else. __________________ proto My Folding Details "Friends, Family, Religion... These are the three demons you must slay in order to succeed in business" C.M. Burns
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03-15-2006, 11:46 PM	#3
3 of 7 You can run..... Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,660	Wow, I looked around too..next to nothing out there...suprized me! __________________
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03-16-2006, 06:38 AM	#4
flex22 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,139	you know that bites. they should have to do like the car mfg. when they discontinue a model they have to have 5 yrs replacement parts available. Intel should have the same standards. if nothing else they would sell a few more mobs. if this board goes i"m setting here with 2.8E as a paper weight. :eek: __________________ Motherboard ASUS P4P800 Deluxe 1016 Bios Processor 2.8 E Prescott Memory 2x512 xms corsair PC3200 samsung 80GB wd120JB l o/s XP PRO l X-Dreamer-case PC2 P4 1.8 o/s Win2K l 2x512 PC2700 l
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03-16-2006, 09:15 AM	#5
3 of 7 You can run..... Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,660	It looks like we're going to have to learn to solder... __________________
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03-16-2006, 07:21 PM	#6
Dk975 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 530	I found a good mobo, Asus P4RD1-MX, http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l...71&modelmenu=1 that has SATA, socket 478 and decent X300 graphics (remember, low cost, but with PCIe slot to upgrade), dual channel DDR400 and Xpress 200 chipset. Add in a firewire PCI card I guess. Have they ironed out the problems with the Xpress 200 chipset? I believe it was with USB, right? The only problem is where to find this mobo in the US? It looks like it is in Europe and Canada only. __________________ MainPC: C2D E6750 \| GA-G33M-DS2R bios F7 \| G.Skill HK 2x2GB DDR2-800 @ 4-4-4-12 \| Sapphire HD4670 512MB \| VisionTek T550Pro \| WinXP Home SP2 \| WD250KS \| WD250JS \| LiteOn 201AS \| Enermax Liberty 500W \| Antec NSK4400 \| Samsung 2253LW 22" LCD Laptop: Lenovo T61 15.4" WXGA \| C2D T8300 \| 2x1GB DDR2-667 @ 5-5-5-15 \| Nvidia Quadro 140M 128MB \| Vista HP SP1 \| 120GB 5400 \| 8X DVDRW Heatware : duke975
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03-16-2006, 08:22 PM	#7
JoeFrat Registered Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,850	How about looking at the p4p800-vm? I think you can still get them...
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03-16-2006, 08:36 PM	#8
3 of 7 You can run..... Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,660	I just got myself a P4P800- SE nice board but no firewire.. __________________
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03-17-2006, 06:01 AM	#9
BoWevil_abx Non-expert Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Traveling full time Posts: 1,857	Take a look at Foxconn motherboards. I built 2 systems for my own use using Foxconn and I know that they have the Firewire headers, but I am not sure about them having 2 sata connections. I will check out the documentation in a while and will post back about that. Edit: the Foxconn 865M01-G-6ELS supports 2 SATA devices, and has 2 firewire headers and 8 USB 2.0 slots. It is a micro ATA board. Last edited by BoWevil : 03-17-2006 at 06:43 AM.
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03-17-2006, 04:26 PM	#10
Dk975 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 530	You know I've done some number crunching and it is cheaper for me to sell off both the P4P800-E and 2.6c and build a socket 939 system. It would look like this: Chenming MATX-118 or Aspire QPack case $76 MSI K8NGM2-FID (with 6200 graphics, sound, lan, FIREWIRE) $80 LiteOn DVD burner $35 AMD 3000+ Venice Retail $135 1GB Corsair VS $65 Then I'll use a WD 80GB IDE drive I have in an enclosure, spare KB, mouse. There are fewer extras to buy with this system, plus it has a decent upgrade path until socket 939 cpus run dry. As for a monitor? I don't want to buy a Video switcher with lousy quality, so just swap the cable from one system to another. __________________ MainPC: C2D E6750 \| GA-G33M-DS2R bios F7 \| G.Skill HK 2x2GB DDR2-800 @ 4-4-4-12 \| Sapphire HD4670 512MB \| VisionTek T550Pro \| WinXP Home SP2 \| WD250KS \| WD250JS \| LiteOn 201AS \| Enermax Liberty 500W \| Antec NSK4400 \| Samsung 2253LW 22" LCD Laptop: Lenovo T61 15.4" WXGA \| C2D T8300 \| 2x1GB DDR2-667 @ 5-5-5-15 \| Nvidia Quadro 140M 128MB \| Vista HP SP1 \| 120GB 5400 \| 8X DVDRW Heatware : duke975
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03-17-2006, 04:37 PM	#11
pointreyes The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march. Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,159	Or you could get this Asus and a cheap Celeron-D proc. http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...ID1-DT&cat=SYS Comes with firewire and even a 7-in-1 card reader. __________________
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