Dilemma - Clawhammer or San Diego 4000+

El Wiseguy · 05-01-2006, 06:40 AM

I know I know. There have been a billion discussions on the differences between the two steppings of the 4000+ but this is a real dilemma.

I bought a "San Diego" core 4000+ on Ebay. I get the chip and notice the Stepping says it's:

CAA2C

***? That isn't San Diego!!!!!! I look it up and I can't find it anywhere under the San Diego name! I found out later on that this is the 1mb L2 cache CLawhammer.

But, normally we'd think, eh', a 4000 is a 4000! But the 90nm runs cooler (I have a warm room and it affects my computer) and it runs at a lower Wattage! I got the chip for a STEAL of 250 bucks. The guy offered to refund all my money and shipping. What should I do? Should I just keep it? Do I send it back to him and get my 250 bucks? Or do I sell it for 300 elsewhere and run the risk of it not selling? Or, do I just keep it?

Can anyone tell me the real differences between the cores that I'll notice the most? Cuz I heard that I'd never tell the diffference in everday usage.

So, anyone want to tell me which core the CAA2C stepping is specifically. I'm only guessing it's the Clawhamer. Thanks!

I dunno guys. I need your help. :/

El Wiseguy · 05-02-2006, 05:34 AM

sorry for the double post but guys I need your help! This is sort of time sensitive on when I install this new cpu and or sell it back to the original owner!

leeghoofd · 05-07-2006, 05:12 AM

4000+ 2,4 GHz 1 MByte HT800 S939 SSE2, AMD64, C'n'Q, NX

Thing that puzzles me is the HT800, I had a 3500 Newcastle ( also 130nm like your core) and it heated a lot more than my later 4000 San Diego. And was not so overclockable due to the heat generated.

If you can give it back without any loss I would go for that mate and buy me an opteron 144 or 146 which are in the same budget of around 200-250 dollars.

They have a solid memory controller, 1mb cache , OC like hell on stock voltage and run very cool. I swapped my 4000 San Diego for an Opteron 146 which not only runs cooler than the Sandie but runs happily at 2700mhz at 1.4 volts 24/7 (300 X 9 DDR333 divider, temps idle 27°C / load 45°C). So about FX55 performance

And it only costed me 230 euros while the 4000 is around 360 in Europe

El Wiseguy · 05-08-2006, 03:27 AM

haha nice.

But, I already returned it and got the San Diego for 249! 1 dollar cheaper! What a deal. Anyway, I'll look into getting that 146 though. Sounds like a good chip to play with.

leeghoofd · 05-08-2006, 08:15 AM

Well I have it Oc'ed at 2700Mhz ( fine for me rockstable at 1.4 volts ) so in between FX55 and FX57 cpu's and it costs around 100 euros less ( about 60 dollars ) then a A64 4000 one( which had probs once over 250FSB ). If they keep on fabricating these babies I'm gonna advice them to all my buddies instead of normal A64.

05-01-2006, 06:40 AM	#1
El Wiseguy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jackson, Ca Posts: 490	Dilemma - Clawhammer or San Diego 4000+ I know I know. There have been a billion discussions on the differences between the two steppings of the 4000+ but this is a real dilemma. I bought a "San Diego" core 4000+ on Ebay. I get the chip and notice the Stepping says it's: CAA2C **? That isn't San Diego!!!!!! I look it up and I can't find it anywhere under the San Diego name! I found out later on that this is the 1mb L2 cache CLawhammer. But, normally we'd think, eh', a 4000 is a 4000! But the 90nm runs cooler (I have a warm room and it affects my computer) and it runs at a lower Wattage! I got the chip for a STEAL of 250 bucks. The guy offered to refund all my money and shipping. What should I do? Should I just keep it? Do I send it back to him and get my 250 bucks? Or do I sell it for 300 elsewhere and run the risk of it not selling? Or, do I just keep it? Can anyone tell me the real differences between the cores that I'll notice the most? Cuz I heard that I'd never tell the diffference in everday usage. So, anyone want to tell me which core the CAA2C stepping is specifically. I'm only guessing it's the Clawhamer. Thanks! I dunno guys. I need your help. :/ __________________ There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask questions. Last edited by El Wiseguy : 05-01-2006 at 04:10 PM.*
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05-02-2006, 05:34 AM	#2
El Wiseguy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jackson, Ca Posts: 490	sorry for the double post but guys I need your help! This is sort of time sensitive on when I install this new cpu and or sell it back to the original owner! __________________ There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask questions.
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05-07-2006, 05:12 AM	#3
leeghoofd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 628	4000+ 2,4 GHz 1 MByte HT800 S939 SSE2, AMD64, C'n'Q, NX Thing that puzzles me is the HT800, I had a 3500 Newcastle ( also 130nm like your core) and it heated a lot more than my later 4000 San Diego. And was not so overclockable due to the heat generated. If you can give it back without any loss I would go for that mate and buy me an opteron 144 or 146 which are in the same budget of around 200-250 dollars. They have a solid memory controller, 1mb cache , OC like hell on stock voltage and run very cool. I swapped my 4000 San Diego for an Opteron 146 which not only runs cooler than the Sandie but runs happily at 2700mhz at 1.4 volts 24/7 (300 X 9 DDR333 divider, temps idle 27°C / load 45°C). So about FX55 performance And it only costed me 230 euros while the 4000 is around 360 in Europe __________________ AMD64 X2 4400@2600 - ABIT Fatal1ty AN8 SLI 16 Bios- 2 x 1024 Gskill ram 3-3-3-8 - XFX 7900GTX 512mb 91.47 - Plextor 52x Cd writer - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Libery 500 - Rage3d Folding team Intel E6600@3600 1.47 - Asus Striker (0402 bios) - 2 gig OCZ 4-4-4-10 1T 2.1 volts - EVGA 8800GTX 1 Gig 97.92 - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Liberty 620 - Rage3d Folding team
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05-08-2006, 03:27 AM	#4
El Wiseguy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jackson, Ca Posts: 490	haha nice. But, I already returned it and got the San Diego for 249! 1 dollar cheaper! What a deal. Anyway, I'll look into getting that 146 though. Sounds like a good chip to play with. __________________ There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask questions.
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05-08-2006, 08:15 AM	#5
leeghoofd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 628	Well I have it Oc'ed at 2700Mhz ( fine for me rockstable at 1.4 volts ) so in between FX55 and FX57 cpu's and it costs around 100 euros less ( about 60 dollars ) then a A64 4000 one( which had probs once over 250FSB ). If they keep on fabricating these babies I'm gonna advice them to all my buddies instead of normal A64. __________________ AMD64 X2 4400@2600 - ABIT Fatal1ty AN8 SLI 16 Bios- 2 x 1024 Gskill ram 3-3-3-8 - XFX 7900GTX 512mb 91.47 - Plextor 52x Cd writer - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Libery 500 - Rage3d Folding team Intel E6600@3600 1.47 - Asus Striker (0402 bios) - 2 gig OCZ 4-4-4-10 1T 2.1 volts - EVGA 8800GTX 1 Gig 97.92 - Plextor 7140 DVD Writer - Enermax Liberty 620 - Rage3d Folding team
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