DFI NF4 Thread - Page 328

Sierra_abx · 06-30-2005, 01:52 PM

A little higher. SuperPi time isn't that great because of lower memory speed.

kswiss · 06-30-2005, 01:56 PM

Sierra, I am sure you have explained this before but why again does SmartGuardian read your temp at like 236 degrees? Is it something with the cooling you have setup?

Sierra_abx · 06-30-2005, 02:02 PM

SmartGuardian does not read sub-zero temps correctly. Once you get below zero centigrade, the monitor jumps to 255C and then works its way down again. So 236C would actually be around -19C.

xgman · 06-30-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

Whatever it is at default, don't change that setting, its not necessary. Some people get confused and think that is what you change to adjust vcore but its not.

I have always set startup to the same voltage as the other setting. Otherwise it may get cold boot issue if you clock too high.

xgman · 06-30-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sierra

A little higher. SuperPi time isn't that great because of lower memory speed.

Wow, nice clock. Why don't you lower the multi, up the htt and see if it holds?

Sierra_abx · 06-30-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xgman

Wow, nice clock. Why don't you lower the multi, up the htt and see if it holds?

I will sometime later. Got to get ready for work soon. Probably won't have a chance to do thorough testing until the weekend. Might be a little cooler then. Outside temp is forecast to be around 100F for the next few days.

rosssivi · 06-30-2005, 02:34 PM

well i tried 260x10.5 260x10 and none would get past the xp boot screen... crash. i ran a test and i got errors after 32bit something.... but that was at 270fsb. could some one give me the exact settings i should try for page one of the genie settings and in the ram settings bit. i knned to know what to put for all settings, if its auto or a manual setting. im really stuck with this and im getting annoyed.

xgman · 06-30-2005, 02:41 PM

Sierra has some settings guides somewhere in this thread. Check the first page first.

hey Sierra, what was the problem of running 1/2 multipliers on the NF4 again? I have forgotten why it ends up in a net loss of performance.

xgman · 06-30-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rosssivi

well i tried 260x10.5 260x10 and none would get past the xp boot screen... crash. i ran a test and i got errors after 32bit something.... but that was at 270fsb. could some one give me the exact settings i should try for page one of the genie settings and in the ram settings bit. i knned to know what to put for all settings, if its auto or a manual setting. im really stuck with this and im getting annoyed.

Ross, set your LDT to 3X or if that doesn't work, try auto. make sure your Dram Timing setting towards the bottom of the dram section of the bios is set only to "normal"

I can't see what ram/bios and cpu are you using?

rosssivi · 06-30-2005, 02:50 PM

i have the new mushkin redline 4000 ram which has some crazy fast timings. the guide at the begining isnt that good for me to follow because it starts way off from where this ram can hit at stock. 3500+ newcastle amd and bios 618-2

Sierra_abx · 06-30-2005, 02:52 PM

Redlines require Trfc to be set at around 16 or 17. I used 17 when I had a pair. I stole this screenshot from another forum because I can't seem to find any of my old Redline screens.

rosssivi · 06-30-2005, 03:05 PM

should i make the clock 10 or 11 then if there is a problem with .5 multis....

rosssivi · 06-30-2005, 03:21 PM

ok i took some pics of my bios to show you the settings. this booted but had to turn fsb down to 255mhz x 10.

http://www.rosssivi.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/settings.rar

if you look at the ram volts it is set to 2.4v but the bios reads it differently.... could this be the problem? the volts arent actually getting up to 3.4?

Eldonko · 06-30-2005, 03:29 PM

Your CPU is the bottleneck An average 3500+ does 2500Mhz at best, so when you are trying 270x10 the CPU can't handle that. Try and get it stable at 250 x 10 and work up from there.

Blue078 · 06-30-2005, 03:33 PM

I agree the avrage 3500+ NC is doing real good to get 2500Mhz on water, you may get a few more Mhz with tweeking.

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Sierra_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,880	SmartGuardian does not read sub-zero temps correctly. Once you get below zero centigrade, the monitor jumps to 255C and then works its way down again. So 236C would actually be around -19C.
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06-30-2005, 02:34 PM	#4912
rosssivi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: edinburgh Posts: 83	well i tried 260x10.5 260x10 and none would get past the xp boot screen... crash. i ran a test and i got errors after 32bit something.... but that was at 270fsb. could some one give me the exact settings i should try for page one of the genie settings and in the ram settings bit. i knned to know what to put for all settings, if its auto or a manual setting. im really stuck with this and im getting annoyed.
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06-30-2005, 02:41 PM	#4913
xgman voider of warranties Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,658	Sierra has some settings guides somewhere in this thread. Check the first page first. hey Sierra, what was the problem of running 1/2 multipliers on the NF4 again? I have forgotten why it ends up in a net loss of performance. __________________ P5K Dlx-QX9650/VapoLS @4.8ghz/VapoLS-Stacker830case-Team PC2-9600-8800GTX-Hitachi 7K1000's-Auzentech Meridian 7.1/Kliptsch-Tagan itz 900w-Dell3007wfp
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06-30-2005, 02:50 PM	#4915
rosssivi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: edinburgh Posts: 83	i have the new mushkin redline 4000 ram which has some crazy fast timings. the guide at the begining isnt that good for me to follow because it starts way off from where this ram can hit at stock. 3500+ newcastle amd and bios 618-2
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rosssivi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: edinburgh Posts: 83	should i make the clock 10 or 11 then if there is a problem with .5 multis....
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06-30-2005, 03:21 PM	#4918
rosssivi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: edinburgh Posts: 83	ok i took some pics of my bios to show you the settings. this booted but had to turn fsb down to 255mhz x 10. http://www.rosssivi.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/settings.rar if you look at the ram volts it is set to 2.4v but the bios reads it differently.... could this be the problem? the volts arent actually getting up to 3.4?
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06-30-2005, 03:29 PM	#4919
Eldonko Revolutionary Mule Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,987	Your CPU is the bottleneck An average 3500+ does 2500Mhz at best, so when you are trying 270x10 the CPU can't handle that. Try and get it stable at 250 x 10 and work up from there. __________________ PM me for Mushkin questions or support.
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