Z5500 & Audigy 2 ZS doesn't work with optical???

T-Hammer · 12-02-2005, 11:33 AM

Hey guys!!

Just recentley purchased the Logitech Z5500 and i cannot seem to get it to work through an optical cable which i have just purchased!!?

I Have an Audigy 2 ZS soundcard and the optical cable is a 3M optical cable with a 3.5mm optical plug adapter. I have put the optical cable in the back of the control centre and the other end in the digital port of my sound card and when i switch the input on the control centre to "Optical" i recieve:

No Digital Data

What on earth?? I have even opened the on screen settings and switched the output to digital instead of analogue and still nothing!!?

Please help me guys! I want this to work so badly!!

JaGWiRE_abx · 12-02-2005, 12:03 PM

Put a dvd in, open up powerdvd or windvd and set it to digital output, see if you get sound.

T-Hammer · 12-02-2005, 12:05 PM

Ive got powerDVD deluxe, how exactly do i go about changing the sound option to digital output?

JaGWiRE_abx · 12-02-2005, 12:09 PM

Somewhere in the settigns it will say spdif I think.

T-Hammer · 12-02-2005, 12:14 PM

yea i recieve sound, really boosts the centre speaker
but the control centre is still set to 6 ch direct?
When i try both optical and coax it shows, No Digital Data??

T-Hammer · 12-05-2005, 07:07 AM

Can anyone help? Please i really want to get optical audio from this system? If the system says that their is no digital data, is this because i need something playing or it needs to be configured? or something else? Please help!?

XenoS_abx · 12-05-2005, 08:07 AM

When I got my Z5500's a little while ago I first used them with an Audigy 2 Platinum via the the digial coaxial out on the front of the live drive. I quickly discovered you'll only get stereo most times, and the Z5500 control pod has to detect the signal which causes a short delay before you actually hear sound. This was bad for short sounds, like the ones in Windows, as by the time the speakers detects a digital stereo signal and kicked in, the sound would be nearly to completely over. The only way to get digital 5.1 is to play something (like a DVD) that has pre-recorded digital multi channel sound.

Anyways, digital out only might have to be set in the sound cards mixer (or speakers settings, somewhere in there), spdif/digital out has to be set in your DVD player app, and possibly you may have to also go into the audio console for your sound card (that's what it's called for the X-Fi I'm now using anyways, can't remember the Audigy 2 name for it, should be in the control panel though EDIT: AudioHQ, see below) and set the option in the drivers that tells the sound card software to send a digital signal out instead of decoding it.

I just ended up using analog in the end, works better since it's the only way you'll have surround sound in games, as well as other options like 3D upsampling of 2 channel sterero sources via 3D-CMSS (which is really good IMHO). The only way to get digital surround sound on the fly and not pre-recorded is if you had a 5.1 encoder, and no Creative card comes with that ability I think.

Edit: Improved accuracy of text above, and added the name of the component I was thinking of (Control Panel>AudioHQ>Device Controls Icon>Decoder Tab).

T-Hammer · 12-06-2005, 06:46 PM

okay ive switched that section on!
check ya thx settings on your sound card, i noticed it sais digital out or analog out? does this have to be digital too?

And once these settings are on i am still getting no digital data when i switch to optical on the control centre!!! AAAHHH

thanx for all your help so far!

XenoS_abx · 12-07-2005, 08:24 AM

If your using coaxial, the male miniplug that is needed to plug into the sound cards digital out port has to be mono and not stereo as far as I know. The other end should be a regular male RCA photo plug and be plugged into the female coaxial in port on the Z5500 control pod. The Audigy 2 ZS internal soundcard does not have optical out, so if you are using some kind of coaxial to optical adapter then that could certainly be the problem. I've gone over your posts and it is hard to make out exactly how you have things hooked up.

FWIW, Creative has never been all that good when it comes to driver support and getting the bugs out in a timely fashion, so this could also be your problem. Makes me question myself every time I buy a new product from them, yet I keep giving them my money lol. Anyways, the easiest way to make sure you have the latest software and drivers is to load up IE and use Creative's auto update feature on their website. You may also want to check out their forums, which I noticed the other day they have. They used to have newsgroups as well, but I'm not sure if they still maintain those or not.

12-02-2005, 11:33 AM	#1
T-Hammer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 94	Z5500 & Audigy 2 ZS doesn't work with optical??? Hey guys!! Just recentley purchased the Logitech Z5500 and i cannot seem to get it to work through an optical cable which i have just purchased!!? I Have an Audigy 2 ZS soundcard and the optical cable is a 3M optical cable with a 3.5mm optical plug adapter. I have put the optical cable in the back of the control centre and the other end in the digital port of my sound card and when i switch the input on the control centre to "Optical" i recieve: No Digital Data What on earth?? I have even opened the on screen settings and switched the output to digital instead of analogue and still nothing!!? Please help me guys! I want this to work so badly!! __________________ Hammer Designs - Digital Expression Hammer Designs View The Hammer MySpace
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JaGWiRE_abx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,912	Put a dvd in, open up powerdvd or windvd and set it to digital output, see if you get sound. __________________ DFI LAN PARTY UT NF4, Amd Athlon 3200+ 64 VENICE @ 2.5 ghz (250x4/x10), 1 GB (512x2 in dual channel, 150 divider) OCZ Premier 2.5-3-3-7 @ 2.5-3-3-8, Sapphire Raedon X800XL, Zalman 7700-alcu, OCZ MODSTREAM 450W, Thermaltake Tsunami Silver w/ Window, 1x 250GB WD Sata150 HD, 1x Lite-on DVD-R/RW 1x Pioneer DVD-R/RW, Bios 6-18, Windows XP
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12-02-2005, 12:05 PM	#3
T-Hammer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 94	Ive got powerDVD deluxe, how exactly do i go about changing the sound option to digital output? __________________ Hammer Designs - Digital Expression Hammer Designs View The Hammer MySpace
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12-02-2005, 12:09 PM	#4
JaGWiRE_abx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,912	Somewhere in the settigns it will say spdif I think. __________________ DFI LAN PARTY UT NF4, Amd Athlon 3200+ 64 VENICE @ 2.5 ghz (250x4/x10), 1 GB (512x2 in dual channel, 150 divider) OCZ Premier 2.5-3-3-7 @ 2.5-3-3-8, Sapphire Raedon X800XL, Zalman 7700-alcu, OCZ MODSTREAM 450W, Thermaltake Tsunami Silver w/ Window, 1x 250GB WD Sata150 HD, 1x Lite-on DVD-R/RW 1x Pioneer DVD-R/RW, Bios 6-18, Windows XP
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12-02-2005, 12:14 PM	#5
T-Hammer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 94	yea i recieve sound, really boosts the centre speaker but the control centre is still set to 6 ch direct? When i try both optical and coax it shows, No Digital Data?? __________________ Hammer Designs - Digital Expression Hammer Designs View The Hammer MySpace
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12-05-2005, 07:07 AM	#6
T-Hammer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 94	Can anyone help? Please i really want to get optical audio from this system? If the system says that their is no digital data, is this because i need something playing or it needs to be configured? or something else? Please help!? __________________ Hammer Designs - Digital Expression Hammer Designs View The Hammer MySpace
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12-05-2005, 08:07 AM	#7
XenoS_abx Alien Invader Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,300	When I got my Z5500's a little while ago I first used them with an Audigy 2 Platinum via the the digial coaxial out on the front of the live drive. I quickly discovered you'll only get stereo most times, and the Z5500 control pod has to detect the signal which causes a short delay before you actually hear sound. This was bad for short sounds, like the ones in Windows, as by the time the speakers detects a digital stereo signal and kicked in, the sound would be nearly to completely over. The only way to get digital 5.1 is to play something (like a DVD) that has pre-recorded digital multi channel sound. Anyways, digital out only might have to be set in the sound cards mixer (or speakers settings, somewhere in there), spdif/digital out has to be set in your DVD player app, and possibly you may have to also go into the audio console for your sound card (that's what it's called for the X-Fi I'm now using anyways, can't remember the Audigy 2 name for it, should be in the control panel though EDIT: AudioHQ, see below) and set the option in the drivers that tells the sound card software to send a digital signal out instead of decoding it. I just ended up using analog in the end, works better since it's the only way you'll have surround sound in games, as well as other options like 3D upsampling of 2 channel sterero sources via 3D-CMSS (which is really good IMHO). The only way to get digital surround sound on the fly and not pre-recorded is if you had a 5.1 encoder, and no Creative card comes with that ability I think. Edit: Improved accuracy of text above, and added the name of the component I was thinking of (Control Panel>AudioHQ>Device Controls Icon>Decoder Tab). __________________ My Rig: DFI LANparty NF4 SLI-DR + Evercool VC-RE (NF4LD406 BIOS) \| AMD64 X2 4400+ @ 2.5 GHz \| Thermalright SI-120 + Aerocool Xtreme Turbine \| Mushkin Redline 2GB DDR500 3-3-2-8 @ 500 MHz \| eVGA 7950 GX2 (500/1200) \| Dell 2405FPW 24" LCD \| Two 74GB Western Digital Raptors (00FLC0) \| Two 300GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10's \| LG GSA-4167B DL DVD/R/RW \| Creative X-Fi Platinum \| Logitech Z-5500 Speakers \| Aerocool ZeroDBA 620W PSU \| Cooler Master Stacker 830 Case \| Sunbeam Rheobus \| Logitech G15 Keyboard \| Logitech MX-1000 Mouse \| D-Link DGL-4300 Router \| Belkin Universal UPS 800VA Last edited by XenoS : 12-05-2005 at 08:19 AM.
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12-06-2005, 06:46 PM	#8
T-Hammer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 94	okay ive switched that section on! check ya thx settings on your sound card, i noticed it sais digital out or analog out? does this have to be digital too? And once these settings are on i am still getting no digital data when i switch to optical on the control centre!!! AAAHHH thanx for all your help so far! __________________ Hammer Designs - Digital Expression Hammer Designs View The Hammer MySpace
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12-07-2005, 08:24 AM	#9
XenoS_abx Alien Invader Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,300	If your using coaxial, the male miniplug that is needed to plug into the sound cards digital out port has to be mono and not stereo as far as I know. The other end should be a regular male RCA photo plug and be plugged into the female coaxial in port on the Z5500 control pod. The Audigy 2 ZS internal soundcard does not have optical out, so if you are using some kind of coaxial to optical adapter then that could certainly be the problem. I've gone over your posts and it is hard to make out exactly how you have things hooked up. FWIW, Creative has never been all that good when it comes to driver support and getting the bugs out in a timely fashion, so this could also be your problem. Makes me question myself every time I buy a new product from them, yet I keep giving them my money lol. Anyways, the easiest way to make sure you have the latest software and drivers is to load up IE and use Creative's auto update feature on their website. You may also want to check out their forums, which I noticed the other day they have. They used to have newsgroups as well, but I'm not sure if they still maintain those or not. __________________ My Rig: DFI LANparty NF4 SLI-DR + Evercool VC-RE (NF4LD406 BIOS) \| AMD64 X2 4400+ @ 2.5 GHz \| Thermalright SI-120 + Aerocool Xtreme Turbine \| Mushkin Redline 2GB DDR500 3-3-2-8 @ 500 MHz \| eVGA 7950 GX2 (500/1200) \| Dell 2405FPW 24" LCD \| Two 74GB Western Digital Raptors (00FLC0) \| Two 300GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10's \| LG GSA-4167B DL DVD/R/RW \| Creative X-Fi Platinum \| Logitech Z-5500 Speakers \| Aerocool ZeroDBA 620W PSU \| Cooler Master Stacker 830 Case \| Sunbeam Rheobus \| Logitech G15 Keyboard \| Logitech MX-1000 Mouse \| D-Link DGL-4300 Router \| Belkin Universal UPS 800VA
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