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Sandog 08-23-2017 05:24 PM


ASUS ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX - motherboard - extended ATX - LGA2066 Socket - X2 - ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX - Motherboards/Chassis - CDW.com

Sir Skully 08-23-2017 10:34 PM

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Thanks, yea it gives me sweaty hands, I need me fix...
An APEX fix... I tell ya... :<

XJ. 08-24-2017 11:23 AM

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Nice mobo, definitely the one to get for Skylake-X overclocking. I'm sure the price on that board would make my wallet sweat :p

Sir Skully 08-24-2017 11:43 AM

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Hey AJ, yea its a deep pocket mobo for sure... :wave:
The PRIME X299 Deluxe I have now is running well @ 49mhz oc.
I have the heat beast tamed pretty much on it... :yes:

Sandog 08-24-2017 06:40 PM

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It should fall close to $400 whereas the RV10E was close to $600.

I would feel secure having this board to house Skylake-X and that is without OCing. I like the board because it looks neat and sort of sparse and the heat sinks look like heat sinks and are not too flamboyant.

The reason why I started this thread is I am interested in the i7-7820X.

Intel Coreā„¢ i7-7820X X-series Processor (11M Cache, up to 4.30 GHz) Product Specifications

This processor did not interest me at first after reading of all the high wattage required for Skylake-X but I have done a little research. This processor will do 4.5GHz on 2 cores stock. It is rated at 4.3 but it will do 4.5GHz on the 2 best cores. Also there is no driver required for it to do this like Broadwell-E. That intrigues me to have an 8-core with HT and it does 4.5GHz stock. I rarely use more than 1 core and no more than 2 cores for all the stuff I run (games). I would be very happy with that. Also reviews at NE state that without OCing, this CPU hits in the 70's C under load and with lesser coolers than I have. That is acceptable to me. Also, this CPU runs at DDR4-2666. That is a nice stopping point for DDR IMO and I have always wanted to run at that speed. Long ago I learned 2666 is as high as the 100MHz bus can go. After that you need to go to 125MHz. Also tests have shown that above DDR-2133 there is no big advantage but at 2666 there comes a slight advantage and then another slight advantage at 3200 and that is it. Add that this processor only costs $599 and it all makes me super intrigued.

So, the i7-7820X has led me to this mobo. It is the only one I would trust ATT for Skylake-X. I am reassured from reading about it, the heat sinks, and the 2x8pin CPU power connectors. I also like the RAM setup. I would not miss the other 4 DIMM's at all. The memory traces are more optimized and so are the slots for the M.2 cards. In fact the M.2 cards are now using the other DIMM traces. I would like to learn more about what is required to implement RAID on two M.2 cards. Maybe Skully can tell me. I found these.

Premium SM951 SM961 950PRO XP9410 M.2 SSD Cooling Heatsink (Black) - modDIY.com

I think they would be adequate instead of active cooling. If you were to use a fan with the ASUS card I hope ASUS was smart enough to provide a fan header for it on the card.

I am still working on paying off my last weekly upgrade lol but if I got lucky I could practically trade out my current CPU, mobo, SSD for this above and two new 960 Pro's. :lol:

Sandog 08-24-2017 06:54 PM

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I searched CPU boss and other processor compare sites and the Skylake-e has a decent lead over Haswell-E. I am still considering it for now.

Also, I started this thread and it was impossible to have caps in the title. That is something else that needs to be added to the fix-it list. :<

Sandog 08-25-2017 04:59 PM

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On sale all over.

ASUS ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX LGA 2066 Intel X299 SATA 6Gbs USB 3.1 USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

Sir Skully 08-25-2017 06:03 PM

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Ouch!!! that really hurts... :(
Now if that was MC I'd be elated...

Sir Skully 08-25-2017 06:18 PM

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The RAID bios in the X299 mobo's is in the OS bios.
Thats why there is no slow down in boot time, a nice feature.
Also its easy to setup RAID-O, its an easy 3 step deal. Best
you read the manual on RAID when and if ya get the APEX.
And if ya do have any questions when ya get the APEX. I'll
be glad to answer... I talked to one of the MC guys to see
if they would go ahead, and order the APEX, and that I'd take it
for sure, said he'd look into it...

Sandog 08-26-2017 09:02 AM

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Thats news to me that RAID is all taken care of in BIOS. I haven't used RAID since I can remember. I would like that. The placement of the two M.2 slots next to the CPU is fascinating. I think ASUS is prepping for OPTANE devices IMO. Being so close to the CPU and substituting for DRAM, the trace path is almost 100% optimized for the M.2 slots. It can only help performance if you put drives there. There is not a lot of explanation on the ASUS website.

Sir Skully 08-26-2017 10:25 AM

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Yea I concur with you about the M.2 slots. They are very well placed.
After using RAID bios separate from the os bios for years. This
is really nice feature...

Sandog 08-26-2017 11:51 AM

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The APEX is a neat board. It is really geared toward every one of the new X CPU's. It has the regulator kahunas to power the 8 thru 18 core Skylake-X CPU's and the lesser memory module space for the dual-memory channel 4-core Kabylake-X CPU's. I think this board came out with a lower price range for people who want to run with the $200 quad core CPU's. Never-the-less it still has decent power delivery, great Intel NIC, and great audio. All you need! The RVE10 I am using came with the kitchen sink and sprinkles on top and I am using hardly any of it.

Sandog 08-26-2017 07:01 PM

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Skully you might want to study the APEX hard before you buy. It can only do one video card and two M.2 slots.

Sandog 08-27-2017 11:19 AM

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The deal is with the APEX mobo you can only use the two DIMM M.2 slots near the CPU if you have a 44 PCI lane CPU. The only CPU that has that is the 7900X and future CPU's.

The 28 PCI lane 7820X can only support 1 DIMM M.2 slot near the CPU and the lower Kaby Lake X CPU's can support zero DIMM M.2 slots. Therefore, you can only do RAID with the 7900X.

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Sir Skully 08-27-2017 12:07 PM

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Thanks Sandog, that's some good info, but I believe that all I'll need,
is support of one video card, and two M.2, for RAID-0. I'm done with SLI.
An one RAID-O with two 960 PRO's, is good enough for me. What I'm
wondering now is, will I also be able to use a PCI slot for my Intel 750,
as a storage card, as I do now. I haven't had time to look into that.
I've been reinstalling W-10, RAID-O, and fine tuning the RAID.
I finally have the RAID-0 where I want it, best numbers yet. Will post
in appropriate thread...

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