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Old 08-23-2017, 06:24 PM   #1
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Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

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Old 08-23-2017, 11:34 PM   #2
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Re: Asus rog rampage vi apex

Thanks, yea it gives me sweaty hands, I need me fix...
An APEX fix... I tell ya...
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Old 08-24-2017, 12:23 PM   #3
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Re: Asus rog rampage vi apex

Nice mobo, definitely the one to get for Skylake-X overclocking. I'm sure the price on that board would make my wallet sweat
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Old 08-24-2017, 12:43 PM   #4
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Re: Asus rog rampage vi apex

Hey AJ, yea its a deep pocket mobo for sure...
The PRIME X299 Deluxe I have now is running well @ 49mhz oc.
I have the heat beast tamed pretty much on it...
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:40 PM   #5
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Re: Asus rog rampage vi apex

It should fall close to $400 whereas the RV10E was close to $600.

I would feel secure having this board to house Skylake-X and that is without OCing. I like the board because it looks neat and sort of sparse and the heat sinks look like heat sinks and are not too flamboyant.

The reason why I started this thread is I am interested in the i7-7820X.

Intel Coreâ„¢ i7-7820X X-series Processor (11M Cache, up to 4.30 GHz) Product Specifications

This processor did not interest me at first after reading of all the high wattage required for Skylake-X but I have done a little research. This processor will do 4.5GHz on 2 cores stock. It is rated at 4.3 but it will do 4.5GHz on the 2 best cores. Also there is no driver required for it to do this like Broadwell-E. That intrigues me to have an 8-core with HT and it does 4.5GHz stock. I rarely use more than 1 core and no more than 2 cores for all the stuff I run (games). I would be very happy with that. Also reviews at NE state that without OCing, this CPU hits in the 70's C under load and with lesser coolers than I have. That is acceptable to me. Also, this CPU runs at DDR4-2666. That is a nice stopping point for DDR IMO and I have always wanted to run at that speed. Long ago I learned 2666 is as high as the 100MHz bus can go. After that you need to go to 125MHz. Also tests have shown that above DDR-2133 there is no big advantage but at 2666 there comes a slight advantage and then another slight advantage at 3200 and that is it. Add that this processor only costs $599 and it all makes me super intrigued.

So, the i7-7820X has led me to this mobo. It is the only one I would trust ATT for Skylake-X. I am reassured from reading about it, the heat sinks, and the 2x8pin CPU power connectors. I also like the RAM setup. I would not miss the other 4 DIMM's at all. The memory traces are more optimized and so are the slots for the M.2 cards. In fact the M.2 cards are now using the other DIMM traces. I would like to learn more about what is required to implement RAID on two M.2 cards. Maybe Skully can tell me. I found these.

Premium SM951 SM961 950PRO XP9410 M.2 SSD Cooling Heatsink (Black) - modDIY.com

I think they would be adequate instead of active cooling. If you were to use a fan with the ASUS card I hope ASUS was smart enough to provide a fan header for it on the card.

I am still working on paying off my last weekly upgrade lol but if I got lucky I could practically trade out my current CPU, mobo, SSD for this above and two new 960 Pro's.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:54 PM   #6
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Re: Asus rog rampage vi apex

I searched CPU boss and other processor compare sites and the Skylake-e has a decent lead over Haswell-E. I am still considering it for now.

Also, I started this thread and it was impossible to have caps in the title. That is something else that needs to be added to the fix-it list.
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:59 PM   #7
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Re: Asus rog rampage vi apex

On sale all over.

ASUS ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX LGA 2066 Intel X299 SATA 6Gbs USB 3.1 USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:04 PM   #8
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Re: Asus Rampage Vl Extreme Review!

Very nice board and the best home for the 10 core. The APEX is good too but not as feature rich, as powerful in the reg dept., or as nice looking. The RVIE has a ESS Sabre DAC for onboard audio, one of the best IMO. You can tell a high quality board if it has one of those.

Here is some info. on the new M.2 slots near the RAM.
  • The APEX has 2 M.2 slots near the RAM and the RVIE has 1.
  • It requires the 10-core CPU to run both slots on the APEX mobo (44 PCI lanes).
  • The ASUS M.2 PCI card adapter has 2 card slots on it but they are different. One side in M.2 PCIe X4, the other is M.2 SATA III. You can only run one or the other. This means no RAID from a single adapter card.
  • So far, the only ASUS mobo to support M.2 PCI X4 RAID (next to the RAM) is the APEX.
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:11 PM   #9
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Re: Asus Rampage Vl Extreme Review!

Hey Skully. Home today, bunch of snowflakes shut everything down around here because of a little rain.

I was looking at the APEX myself last night and will post my impression. First, I was getting excited about the i7-8700K to build a low wattage system. But, after running AIDA64 benchmark suite, my current system with quad-channel memory and 8-cores really did a number on an i7-7700K. Mind you my 5960X is clocked at 3.9GHz whilst the i7-7700K is clocked at 4.2GHz.

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Except for losing slightly in FPU VP8, my CPU wiped the floor with the 7700K. I was expecting such for memory read/write because I have quad-channel and I was also expecting to do better in multi-core because I have double the cores but it appears to have done a lot better in 14 of 15 AIDA64 benchies.

I wanted the i7-8700K to lower system temps but I am re-thinking now from a performance standpoint.
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:14 PM   #10
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Re: Asus Rampage Vl Extreme Review!

Yea your i7-5960X did a job on the i7-7700K, you do have
quite a nice prog. I would of liked the 5960X, if I had not went for the X299
mobo's... We got through the storm's in good repair, today
just cloudy that's about it...
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:29 PM   #11
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I have a good impression of the ASUS ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX and I will start a new thread if I get it unless Skully beats me to it.

First off the APEX is priced better than the Deluxe or the upcoming Extreme. It may still be overpriced for what it carries but at least it is more affordable. I have the RVE10 and it is very nice and includes the kitchen sink but I have most everything turned off on this mobo in BIOS. This includes Audio, WiFi, Bluetooth, 2nd SATA controller, and the 2nd Ethernet controller. None of this I plan on using in the future either. Why pay $200 more for features that I won't be using?

I like the lean, serious, and down-to-business aspect of the APEX. When I am interested in a particular mobo the first thing I do is look for a snapshot of the real I/O panel.

DSC_0299-1.jpg

The rear I/O panel is pretty full with quad stacks of USB 3.0, a single high-speed ETH port, the CMOS and Back-to-BIOS buttons, a couple of newer high-speed jacks, and gold-plated connectors.

The LED lighting is conservative and more importantly, the heat sinks are for real.

DSC_0303.jpg ///// DSC_0302.jpg

The one negative that stands out in the APEX is PCIe 3.0 support in the PCI slots with i7-7820X (28-lanes CPU). You only get 2 sots that can do 3.0 at the same time. But, that is all I need for what I am running now. The reason for this is the support for the two DIMM M.2 slots next to the RAM. They take away PCI lanes from the normal slots. Matter of fact, you can only do 2-way GPU cards with a 28-lane CPU. Physically the PCI slots are not great. You only get 2x16X, 2x8X, and 1x4X slots but it would work for my means.

The other thing related to this is you lose 4 DIMM slots because of the two new M.2 sockets. For me this does not matter either. 4 DIMM's remaining is all I need and it still does quad-channel.

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Edit: Found existing thread and moved pertaining posts.
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Re: Asus Rampage Vl Extreme Review!

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Yea your i7-5960X did a job on the i7-7700K, you do have
quite a nice prog. I would of liked the 5960X, if I had not went for the X299
mobo's... We got through the storm's in good repair, today
just cloudy that's about it...
Glad you made out OK, I wasn't too worried about Atlanta.
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

I may be pulling the trigger on this board pretty soon.
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

Downloaded all the support and information files for this board.

Some interesting files (these are just Utilities)

MemTweakit V2.02.38
Kaspersky2016_V16.0.1.445
DAEMON_Tools_Lite_V10.6.0.0278
RAMDisk V2.03.00 for Windows 10 64-bit.
AISuite3 ASUS AI Suite 3 V2.00.09 Install Program for Windows 10 64-bit.
DIP5 ASUS Dual Intelligent Processors 5 V1.04.59 for Windows 10 64-bit.
PC Cleaner ASUS PC Cleaner V1.04.59 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS EZ Update V2.03.16 for Windows 10 64-bit.
File_Transfer ASUS File Transfer V1.00.08 for Windows 10 64-bit.
System_Information ASUS System Information V1.01.15 for Windows 10 64-bit.
USB BIOS Flashback ASUS USB BIOS Flashback V1.03.07 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS AURA V1.05.11 for Windows 10 64-bit.
RAMCACHE II V1.05.05 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS Ai Charger V1.05.02 for Windows 10 64-bit.
Clone Drive V1.04.02 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS ROG Connect Plus V1.00.38 for Windows 10 64-bit.
Overwolf online install for Windows 10 64-bit.
Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 Driver V1.0.0.1032 for Windows 10 64-bit.(WHQL)
Intel(R) Extreme Tuning Utility V6.3.0.202 for Windows 10 64-bit.
Asus User Experience Improvement Program V1.00.04 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ROG CPU-Z V1.79.1 for Windows 10 64-bit.
DAEMON Tools V10.5.1.0230 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS EZ Installer
Use this tool V1.03.13 to create a Windows 7 installation file with USB 3.0 drivers preloaded for 200 series motherboards.


I guess Intel does have a driver for Skylake-X. A review once said there was not one.
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I may be pulling the trigger on this board pretty soon.
Great, maybe we both will have the same mobo's again...
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