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Old 03-30-2008, 02:25 PM   #1
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Question What is up with the SMP client?!!

Man, it running 50% of the time in Kernel Mode (which makes other programs sluggish, despite FAH's low priority). It' also gotten hard to keep stable on an overclocked cpu - which is why I haven't turned in any results with my new Q6600 (g0). This is all very annoying
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Old 03-31-2008, 05:14 PM   #2
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

I usually close down FAH SMP client when I'm playing a game as the games will stutter if I keep FAH SMP running. Everything is fine when I'm only browsing the web while running the FAH SMP client.
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Old 03-31-2008, 05:34 PM   #3
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

Well, I don't know anything about Kernel mode or what it is, but it doesn't make anything stutter on my machine. It's open ALL the time, including while I play World of Warcraft. Realize though that it is (and may always be) a beta. I think that the recommendation is that you don't run it on an overclocked machine, period.
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:14 PM   #4
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

I've run it for some time on an overclocked (by 50%) C2D without problems. Seems like switching to a Quad (which one would think would be faster) has been a disaster, even at stock speeds
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Old 03-31-2008, 08:40 PM   #5
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

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I've run it for some time on an overclocked (by 50%) C2D without problems. Seems like switching to a Quad (which one would think would be faster) has been a disaster, even at stock speeds
I have not had any stability issues at stock settings with my 2.66Ghz Quad CPU and with theYorkfield Core overclocked to 3.67Ghz. Have you tested stability with other programs such as Prime95? Hopefully you can get your Quad Core system folding again.
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:05 AM   #6
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

Hmm, maybe I'm just lucky. I'm probably going to replaced the mobo (and yes, I always stress test my systems - usually OCCT overnight == FAH stability, but not this time). I noticed people on the FAH forums complaining about the high Kernel times, apparently it's dependent on the protein being folded.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:05 PM   #7
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

Well, new motherboard - more stable operation, but my output is low. I'm running a 3.2GHz Q6600 but my PPD is only going to be about 50% higher than my C2D running at about the same speed (5.91 SMP client). All the core are running full bore. Has something changed?
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:00 PM   #8
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

One of my machines running a 2.4Ghz Q6600 gets around 2200 points a day if it was folding the 1760 point SMP protein all the time. The 3.66Ghz QX9650 system gets me around 3500 points a day if it was folding a 1760 point SMP protein all the time. It looks like the extra 4MB of L2 cache really helps out.
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:37 PM   #9
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

I would think the difference in clock speed (2.4Ghz vs 3.66Ghz if not overclocked) would account for most of the PPD difference. A little over 50% increase in production and pretty close to the same amount of increase in clock speed.

In regards to the stability of the client, I have also had some issues in regards to stability with both a Q6600 and now a Q6700. As much as I like Vista and my BadAx2 mobo, I expect it is one or the othere that is the cause of this. Previous issues with the Q6600 are now gone with that CPU and RAM in a new mobo on XP64. I can run for a good while now with my Q6700 with no errors and then it will be like a week getting the client to start up after finishing a work unit. The issues I have are almost always starting a new unit after finishing another work unit. I have learned to work with it until a newer client is available.

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Old 05-20-2008, 04:42 PM   #10
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

Stanford has released a 5.92 beta version of the Windows SMP client using Deino MPI. It works well for environments where the network keeps going down. But, you lose a little production from what I read in the Folding forum.
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Old 05-20-2008, 07:31 PM   #11
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

The client is stable for me now, but my output is just less than I expected. Based on VSEKH's numbers though, they are probably about right. I guess you don't get near 2x the output going from a dual core to a quad at the same speed. Bummer.
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:44 AM   #12
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

I've been running the SMP client on my Q6600 at 3.0 ghz for a while. I don't have any issues, but my PPD has been crazy lately. Some of it has to do with my PS3 getting different proteins to fold, and I sometime forget to start the SMP client. I can't run it from the startup folder because I guess it has to wait on some driver to load to run properly so if it starts on startup it hangs. If I give it a minute or two to load after I get into windows it works fine.
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:08 AM   #13
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

You could always create a batch file to start it up.

Throwing this line in there first would tell it to wait ten seconds...
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@ping 127.0.0.1 -n 10 -w 1000> nul
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:55 PM   #14
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Re: What is up with the SMP client?!!

Thanks, I might give it a try.
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