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Old 05-01-2012, 11:54 PM   #76
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Unpacked my UPS and plugged it in all day to charge the battery. I am about done reading the instructions and everything works OK. I am very pleased with the features, size, and looks of this UPS. It is awesome. One thing that I wish it would do is that the LCD display could be switched to always on. It is beautiful and very functional looking. Highly recommend this series UPS although I haven't hooked it up to all my equipment yet.
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I have a Cyber Power. I also wish you could leave the display on. The blue led matches the blue on my rig. I have had no problems with it. It won't quite power my 50" plasma though. I have been wanting to get a small cheap monitor I can use during a power outage.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:54 AM   #77
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Good luck with your UPS. I had a Cyber UPS, it lasted just over a year. Had the LCD panel also. I think it was the 1200 model. I went back to APC.

I use the UPS software with my system, and as such I can get a readout on the monitor similar to the readout on the LCD. Downside of the software is you have to have a hibernation file.

LCD panel is bright enough to light-up my office!

Anyway, it's best to have a UPS for protection, no matter what brand!
Thanks JT, haven't installed the software yet because I haven't installed the UPS yet. Before I bought it I had in mind the software might be annoying and if it is I will run without it. I will be able to view my UPS LCD display and it has a battery charge meter. The only useful purpose software would provide me is to shut down Windows if I'm not in the room and I'm always around if my computer is running. Still I'm going to give the software a shot. Also I now have the LCD display working all the time, I had to manually set it to display a specific reading and it has stayed on all night.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:58 AM   #78
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I have a Cyber Power. I also wish you could leave the display on. The blue led matches the blue on my rig. I have had no problems with it. It won't quite power my 50" plasma though. I have been wanting to get a small cheap monitor I can use during a power outage.
Yes the display is very pleasant. I find it to have a nice clear light blue contrast without being bright. i believe the LCD will stay on if you have it display a particular reading such as watts.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:18 AM   #79
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Congrats Sandog on the new UPS...

So your going ahead with IVB and V formula mobo.
I'll see how goes with your setup, and maybe I'll change
my mind, and move over to VF and IVB...
Thanks Skully, I really like it so far. It is a tiny little beast You know it gives me the idea that power supply makers could take it to the next level by providing a front panel display to display the same info. (watts, I/O voltages, etc.).

On the mobo, I have always just picked up what I wanted right away. Lately I haven't been following up on what I've said I was going to do. I said I was getting an X79 then I didn't. Then I said I was getting the RIVF and I didn't. Then I said I was getting the RVF and then I wasn't. I kind of regret all that but I'm glad I waited in a way. I am really starting to feel the socket 2011 sucks a lot of power and is very hot compared to mainstream but doesn't offer me any useful performance. As long as there is one x16 graphics slot and at least 2 SATA III ports I will be good. The new Z77 chipset offers many new features especially if you get an IVB CPU and is cool running. Of course the MVF has all the extra power phases and OC ability of any ROG board as well. The MVF should be arriving this month.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:25 PM   #80
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Re: Sandog> Build plans for 2012!

Yep the only real reason for the software is a unattended orderly shutdown. I live in a windy locale so it's to my benefit to use it. I would never use a high-end computer without a UPS.

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Thanks JT, haven't installed the software yet because I haven't installed the UPS yet. Before I bought it I had in mind the software might be annoying and if it is I will run without it. I will be able to view my UPS LCD display and it has a battery charge meter. The only useful purpose software would provide me is to shut down Windows if I'm not in the room and I'm always around if my computer is running. Still I'm going to give the software a shot. Also I now have the LCD display working all the time, I had to manually set it to display a specific reading and it has stayed on all night.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:14 PM   #81
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If your not around the battery will quickly run down and your computer will drop out anyway. Should get to installing it tonight.
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Re: Sandog> Build plans for 2012!

I think its a good choice (MVF & IVB), and there's nothing wrong with changing your mind a few times, after all in the end it's you that you need to please. I'm looking forward to hearing about you're experiences with it.

I like your idea re the power supply indicators. Wouldn't cost much and would be useful. They could even have an external display panel that could be pluggable with a couple feet of signal cable. Could then sit it on the desk for monitoring, or remove it when not needed.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:32 PM   #83
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Re: Sandog> Build plans for 2012!

I too am looking forward to hearing about your build, Sandog. And, nice idea about the remote PSU monitor panel, Zap.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:00 PM   #84
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It will be a while till I buy the MVF. I am pretty busy in May and I want to read some reviews on it after it comes out but I will get it and let you guys know.

I installed my UPS but I haven't loaded the software yet. Here are my system specs:
I7-970 @ 4.26GHz HT enabled, memory at 2133MHz, GTX 570 2D=797/1950, 3D=850/2000

Here is the wattage:
Desktop Windows Idle=264W
Intel Burn Test 12 threads=450W
C&C3=282W
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Thanks Skully, I really like it so far. It is a tiny little beast You know it gives me the idea that power supply makers could take it to the next level by providing a front panel display to display the same info. (watts, I/O voltages, etc.).

On the mobo, I have always just picked up what I wanted right away. Lately I haven't been following up on what I've said I was going to do. I said I was getting an X79 then I didn't. Then I said I was getting the RIVF and I didn't. Then I said I was getting the RVF and then I wasn't. I kind of regret all that but I'm glad I waited in a way. I am really starting to feel the socket 2011 sucks a lot of power and is very hot compared to mainstream but doesn't offer me any useful performance. As long as there is one x16 graphics slot and at least 2 SATA III ports I will be good. The new Z77 chipset offers many new features especially if you get an IVB CPU and is cool running. Of course the MVF has all the extra power phases and OC ability of any ROG board as well. The MVF should be arriving this month.
Yep will look forward to your IVB/MVF build. I agree with Zap no problem with a few mind changes.
As long as ya get what ya like. I change my mind on
PC parts quite often. Mostly its just ourselves that run these rigs. So its us
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Re: Sandog> Build plans for 2012!

I do not run the software as the hibernation file takes-up too much SSD real estate. If I was running a server it would be a different story. The alarm goes off when there is a power outage. It's loud enough for anyone to hear it. You would know the power was out already in most cases.

Enjoy your UPs and enjoy the rig you have. You can always get some sort of card for your multiple SSD's to run at it's rated speeds!


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Installed the CyberPower PowerPanel software last night and I like it and am going to use it. Gives you all kinds of info. and lets you adjust settings. Come with a cool desktop gadjet that shows watts.
http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/pro...ware/pppe.html

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Congrats on the PS.

I'm with you all in thinking that Power supply makers are missing the boat on not letting us have an LED readout of key outputs.

I believe one of the best things a UPS does for you is that it cleans the line.

I hear most power outages are less than 1/60 of a second.
You would never see a bulb dim in that time, but it wreaks havoc on a system. It also can trim some of the spikes.

As for changing your mind on what parts, we all do that.
Its always a matter of balancing what is most important for us, Performance, acustics, reliability, and price.

Right now I have the perfect desktop system for me. Quiet and does everything for my modest needs. I built it after I made the mistake of trying to put a High performance dual socket Xeon system together 10 years ago.

It was a case of me not relizing exactly what my needs were.

I thought at the time performance would be everything, but I didn't realize how NOISY servers could be. I didn't realize that my need for quiet trumped my need for performance.

There wasn't at the time too big of a market to quiet servers, they just put them in a cabinet by themselves. If it is too noisy, they get a room to themselves.

I put forth a half hearted attempt to quiet the system, but most manufacturers were not interested in quieting processors for the 603 socket.

These were the Northwoods, right before the Prescotts, Hot but not extremely so.

Blew a couple of grand on a system almost never used.

I am putting together another system now, one which will make much greater demands of resources than my current system has access to. I know I will be battling the Thermals and acustics once again. My only savings grace is that it will be powered up only 5% of the time, as I can use my existing system for day to day work.
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Good luck with your new system GWillakers, a nice IVB/Z77 system will beat most systems a year old in features and speed especially if you use an SSD.
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Thanks Sandog

Got my E5-1620 today.

Now waiting on ASUS P9X79 WS.

I was really looking forward to using tons of Registered Dimms in the Supermicro X9SRA.
But two things held me back.
1. Had to use (Noisy) HSF's on Narrow ILM.
2. Non support for SLI was the deal breaker.

I plan to play around with some parallel programming with CUDA, and felt too limited with one Nvidia board on the X9SRA

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