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Old 07-13-2017, 11:37 AM   #1
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AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

How's 4 ghz turbo, 16 cores 32 threads, 64 lanes for $999...or go for 14 cores and 28 threads, and 64 lanes of pci-e express at 4 ghz turbo for $799. Here's the story from a couple of places!

AMD Threadripper 1920X and 1950X CPU Details: 12/16 Cores, 4 GHz Turbo, $799 and $999

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X and 1920X Announced: Flagship Performance at $999 | PC Perspective

[H]ardOCP: AMD Threadripper Prices Undercut Intel's Core i9 by as Much as $1,000
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:09 PM   #2
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

180W TDP? How noisy would the HSF be? Great price but I like low TDP with quiet operation.

I think I had an Athlon back in tne day in a slot A board that ran hot but was reliable and a good performer. I had two fans mounted on that sucker to keep it cool though as well as a few case fans. Back then cooling was a "hot" topic, lol. Theres was lots of interest in HSF's, case fans and heaps of temp monitoring angst. I wonder if Ryzen will push us back to that now?

It seems unlikely, I mean in those days a gaming rig was more mobile in that we carried them around to LAN party venues and noise wasnt really an issue. But now my rig sits on my desk while I use it and I dont want lots of fan noise.
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:31 PM   #3
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

16 cores is good but lets see the benchmarks.
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

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16 cores is good but lets see the benchmarks.
We should expect improvements in performance clock-for-clock when core count goes up, in multi-threaded apps. Do you see any limiting factors apart from TDP?
Single threaded could be a whole different story of course.

[edit]Just to add to this; architecture makes a difference and I'm thinking about bandwidth per core having an impact. Theres also speed of access to the main memory. Its possible that Ryzen may not perform as well as Skylake or Kaby Lake due to such architectural considerations, core for core.
But I suspect that Ryzen will be very competitive. My only concern is TDP.
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:14 AM   #5
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

I know heat is a concern with the Ryzen 1800X, I've watched a few video reviews and they all use AIO coolers and speak of how hot it runs!
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

No I am of the mind anyone can cut and paste cores on a die but how much performance do they offer? If Intels 10 core beats AMD's 16 core then the answer is not enough.

180W is not bad for a 16 core when Intels 10 core is 140W. Competition is good.
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

Here's a cinebench score for threadreaper and Intels 7900X....looks good to me!
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

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Here's a cinebench score for threadreaper and Intels 7900X....looks good to me!
That is awesome, but need real world tests to see the true picture.

Sandog, 140W is pretty scary, 180 is mad IMO. I'm thinking the motherboard is going to warp or the surrounding caps will melt, lol.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:23 AM   #9
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

Got a guy at work talking about buying this system because it is cheaper.

If single core apps (95% Windows usuage) run well enough on Ripper than AMD will usurp Intels dominance for sure. I sure hope so because Intel has been stagnant and moving along at a snails pace for years. But like I said before we are really way
past what we need for home use and games anyway IMO. What can't you do with a 4MHz quad-core at home?
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

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Got a guy at work talking about buying this system because it is cheaper.

If single core apps (95% Windows usuage) run well enough on Ripper than AMD will usurp Intels dominance for sure. I sure hope so because Intel has been stagnant and moving along at a snails pace for years. But like I said before we are really way
past what we need for home use and games anyway IMO. What can't you do with a 4MHz quad-core at home?
The one thing is if you're working with 4K video (not me), Lightroom and other apps the more cores the better....but like you said Sandog for what we do its not necessary!
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... But like I said before we are really way
past what we need for home use and games anyway IMO. What can't you do with a 4MHz quad-core at home?
As to gaming; if the dev shops weren't so addicted to console they could make some really sophisticated games with very complex graphics, physics and A.I. that would challenge PC. The problem is not a lack of algorithms or triangles, its the business model where they set console as the high water mark.
Console is targeting mums and dads who are price sensitive.

Look to the current level of CGI in movies to see where graphics state of the art is. And A.I. hasn't moved in years.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:18 PM   #12
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

WCCFTech just came out with a price list.

Ryzen 7 1700 8/16 3.0 GHz 3.7 GHz 4 MB / 16 MB 65 watts 329 USD

There you go, an 8-core 16-thread 3.0>3.7GHz Turbo for only $329. Intels 8-core is $1050.
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WCCFTech just came out with a price list.

Ryzen 7 1700 8/16 3.0 GHz 3.7 GHz 4 MB / 16 MB 65 watts 329 USD

There you go, an 8-core 16-thread 3.0>3.7GHz Turbo for only $329. Intels 8-core is $1050.
Wow 😳 This changes everything
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Re: AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU

Yeah, good for AMD. They have a chip with 60% more cores yet 220% cheaper than Intel (16 core vs. 10 core). I am waiting for it to effect Intels pricing. What would cause me to take action would be if people start dumping their Intel chips for Ryzen. I still have a hankerin' for an Intel i7-5960X Haswell-E 8-Core.
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... What would cause me to take action would be if people start dumping their Intel chips for Ryzen. I still have a hankerin' for an Intel i7-5960X Haswell-E 8-Core.
Well if Ryzen's TDP is manageable then why wouldnt we jump for more cores if they deliver more cycle throughput? All Intels extra chipset features for enhancing performance are irrelevant if the underlying throughput is less, dollar for dollar.
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