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Old 11-23-2017, 08:25 AM   #31
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

I wonder where you heard the 7820X was on sale for $444 Sandog....by the way happy Thanksgiving and don't eat to much Turkey now! Good morning
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:43 AM   #32
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

I read all your stuff. Had business at the base all afternoon yesterday so I am behind.

At this point I do not plan to upgrade my board/CPU for a while. Yes, new CPU's due out to coincide with 390X. Optane is not going away, so I would definitely get a board that would work with their memory when it becomes widespread. I see their memory being used for storage, cache, and GPU.

Go on a cruise or long road trip. Better life experiences! You'll never be caught up with computers.

I did a few virtual builds on the userbenchmark site. Nothing is worth upgrading for me right now. Later, may be a different story.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

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You know I thought deeply about getting this mobo. I wanted this board when I first saw it back in August. That was before I ever heard of the Intel Optane SSD 900P. I have read up on the 900P and Intel mentions additional requirements for the Optane memory which is on the 900P.

Intel® Optane™ Technology

I seem to be running fine and fast so I am not worried but I wonder why Intel lists all it's new CPU's and chipsets as 'Optane Memory Ready'? I have not heard anything contrary to running on X99 so far and I have not seen any specail softare for the 900P. No SSD Toolbox and no IRST to download, just the NVMe driver.

Anyway, the APEX with the 7820X (which BTW is $444 tomorrow) is heads above my 5960X CPU and that is at stock. With the new CPU, 2666MHz RAM, and Optane Memory support along with other new bells and whistles, there is ample reason for me to switch to the APEX. But I am not. I am going to enjoy what I got and take a cruise like JT mentioned. In a year or more Intel will bring a new CPU for the X299. It should be a Tick (10nm size reduction) in the form of Cannonlake-X. These should plop right into the X299 so I may upgrade at that time.

Also, Jim if you are reading. I would wait for Z370. I believe ASUS will have a WS out at that time plus the big news, there will be an 8-core introduced for Z370. Z370 will be the next big thing coming from Intel mid-2018 I believe.
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:54 PM   #33
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

Well guys I looking forward to joining the Skylake-X APEX club with Skully and FVB. I am trading in my kitchen sink RVE10 for a leaner and more powerful ROG mobo. I have been growing accustomed to the layout of the APEX and I like the business like look to the I/O, PCH, and the VREG heat sinks. There are not a lot of RGB LED's on this board, just the infamous ROG swoosh that I love and I/O next to the CPU. Form meets function with the PCI slots being separated nicely and the memory DIMM's right next to the CPU. Several reviewers said memory is easier to OC on this mobo. The power delivery is robust on this mobo as well and it will help with stability.

There are several other layout features I like on the mobo. The rear I/O connectors are perfect and carry Intels latest fast Ethernet port as well as x4 USB 3.0 ports right next to it and there are the CMOS and the Back-to-BIOS push-buttons I like to use.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:17 PM   #34
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So, let me get on with business. I have a brand new ASUS Essence STX audio card and Intel 900P SSD. Both are black beauties. Both will be separated nicely on the APEX and away from the video card. I mentioned a while back of going to a CPU HSF and keeping only the video card on water. That is now very appealing to me. I thing from seeing FVB's cooler that I would even have better temps with a HSF instead of a water block sharing the water cooling with the video card. It will be easier to maintain a single water cooled card and I would be able to remove it as well.

There are other pluses to a CPU HSF, I would never have to think twice about the cooling, I wouid never get a CPU fan warning, and there is a lot less chance of a water leak around critical areas. I have been looking at the Thermalright True Spirit 140mm for a while now. It is very slim, comes with a very quiet PWM fan, it has direct-touch heat pipes, and it looks nice. I thought about getting a new water block but I really think it will be easier and work/look better with a new CPU HSF. I just purchased the Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Direct yesterday.

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Old 12-07-2017, 08:23 PM   #35
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

I've always liked that True Spirit cooler....the temps I'm getting with the Noctua are right in line with other users of the Apex...its not until overclocking does it fall behind....the Noctua is has good or better than any AIO out there I've posted a lot of articles about this, if your interested Sandog I'll re-post them?
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:36 PM   #36
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

Besides the mobo and 7820X CPU, all I need is some new RAM. I looked extensively at new RAM at different speeds and models. It was a toss up between what FBV has (2666MHz) or some 3200MHz and I chose the 3200MHz.

CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 32GB Desktop Memory Model CMD32GX4M4C3200C16-ROG - Newegg.com

One of the reasons was the price which was only about a $20 difference from the 2666 sticks. Also, like I mentioned from reading reviews, the APEX is good at OCing RAM. The sticks are tied together (no empty DIMM) and are crazy close to the CPU. ASUS said they used their latest trace routing scheme on this mobo. The stick above are 3200MHz in XMP mode and that is supposedly the sweetest high spot for memory. In most applications, RAM speed makes no difference or very little, but if any gains are going to be made these sticks will do it. In other words, it will not hurt to run 3200MHz RAM as long as it is stable. It will do as well or better than 2666MHz sticks.
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I've always liked that True Spirit cooler....the temps I'm getting with the Noctua are right in line with other users of the Apex...its not until overclocking does it fall behind....the Noctua is has good or better than any AIO out there I've posted a lot of articles about this, if your interested Sandog I'll re-post them?
Hey FVB, I think the Thermalright will be good enough because I do not plan on OCing the CPU. One of the main reasons I am going to the 7820X is it does 4.5GHz on 2-cores without OCing. I find that very appealing. I am not going to OC the CPU or RAM. Also, I am going to let the CPU fan run on it's own. I have read good stories about his cooler and how quiet the fan is. It comes with one Thermalright TY-147A Utra-low noise 300~1300RPM PWM-Fan (MAX21 dBA). I could almost run that fan on 12V all the time and not hear it.
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

Congrats on the new ram and it's the QVL list.
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Yeah I heard a lot of good things about that fan.
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One thing there is only 3 pwm fan headers on the Apex, all the rest are 12 volts.
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Yeah I thought there were plenty of fan headers. I will check it out. I will be running the CPU fan off the CPU fan header and the case fans also off fan headers. Since I water cooled my video card, temps do not get high enough to run case fans off the video card.

Here is a review on YT I copied and pasted. See how the APEX gets good memory scores? This is due to the low-latency, short traces to the CPU IMO.

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I am not nitpicking about RAM, and I realize I won't feel any performance difference between the 3200 or 2133MHz but, I will not worry about running at 3200MHz. This board will run high frequency DRAM very easily. 3200MHz is at the end of the performance improvement spectrum according to sources but it is not outrageously high considering the APEX can reach 4500MHz on two sticks.
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There plenty of fan headers but like I said only 3 are pwm, the rest are full speed, which means 12 volts...trust me on that one....lol....the CPU header is pwm also.
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One thing there is only 3 pwm fan headers on the Apex, all the rest are 12 volts.
Here is the fan header diagram from the owners manual.

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I think I will use my PWN fan splitter cable and tie both front 140mm fans to one fan header so I won't have to connect a front fan all the way to the yellow fan header in the rear. All the fan headers are where I need them on this board and it is about the same on my current mobo.
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I wonder where you heard the 7820X was on sale for $444 Sandog....by the way happy Thanksgiving and don't eat to much Turkey now! Good morning
It was on sale at Fry's for $444 on Thanksgiving Day.
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Here is the fan header diagram from the owners manual.

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I think I will use my PWN fan splitter cable and tie both front 140mm fans to one fan header so I won't have to connect a front fan all the way to the yellow fan header in the rear. All the fan headers are where I need them on this board and it is about the same on my current mobo.
Yeah I have all 3 of my 120mm ML fans hooked up with a 3 way splitter, the PWM headers are 1 amp headers, my 3 Corsair 120mm ML fans combined are .89 amp so I'm good and they are running fine!
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