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Old 06-08-2013, 09:23 PM   #61
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Re: Asus Sabertooth Z87

Does anyone know how the 550D side panel fit will go with the ST back plate?
I just realised none of u with this case have actually got the board installed yet, right?

[edit] so i should explain; i assume the board needs mounting with longer spacers when the backplate is fitted. And if so will most tall HSF's still fit? The 550D has padding on the side panel as well, so im wondering about room for a tall HSF.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:41 PM   #62
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Re: Asus Sabertooth Z87

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Does anyone know how the 550D side panel fit will go with the ST back plate and cables?
I just realised none of u with this case have actually got the board installed yet, right?
There shouldn't be any issue, because the MB back plate will be in front of the 550D MB tray and the cables route behind it.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:47 PM   #63
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There shouldn't be any issue, because the MB back plate will be in front of the 550D MB tray and the cables route behind it.
Sry Peter, i edited my badly worded post to clarify while u were replying; i'm just thinking about the HSF clearance primarily?
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:15 PM   #64
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Re: Asus Sabertooth Z87

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Sry Peter, i edited my badly worded post to clarify while u were replying; i'm just thinking about the HSF clearance primarily?
They should still fit, that backplate isn't that thick?
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:29 PM   #65
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Re: Asus Sabertooth Z87

Hey FV, whadda you think about the Sabertooth? Great looking board. Don't really think it's much faster than what we have. However, I got an itch! Probaly the Z87 Pro though.
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:55 AM   #66
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The MOSFET's are MILSPEC and run cooler. There is also the back plate with thermal pads directly underneath the MOSFET/VREG's. I am not worried about cooling the MOSFET's. I am worried about cooling the i7-4770K.
It's not a simple as that. The real issue is current capacity at a given voltage and temp. There's an EE guy on Xtremesystems.org who's provided good info on the limits of VRMs. It only become a real problem if you are pushing allot of current (or Watts if you prefer) into the CPU. So it's more of a concern for extreme overclockers. Since that's not you, nor the focus of this board (longevity over extreme overclocking) then no worries. The 4770's run hot, but do not draw allot of power.
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Hey FV, whadda you think about the Sabertooth? Great looking board. Don't really think it's much faster than what we have. However, I got an itch! Probaly the Z87 Pro though.
I know I'm feeling it too, the itch, LOL, I really like the Sabertooth and even though you would never see it the backplate is nice, I was watching a video with JJ from Asus yesterday and the fan at i/o shield is supposed to be blowing in and it has a filter, he said you want it going that direction for sure to have positive pressure in the shielding. Your right it wouldn't really be worth it for us, I think I'm putting my pennies towards a Haswell Ultrabook, probably this one!

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Old 06-09-2013, 12:09 PM   #68
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Re: Asus Sabertooth Z87

ASUS Zenbook Infinity very interesting Ultrabook. I can see
your interest fv. I'm just not a mobile person. My mobility
consist of a two mile walk daily in the park. And that time is
for prayer and Meditation. Man-cave is my abode...

By the by I do visit Microcenter now and again....
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Re: Asus Sabertooth Z87

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Sry Peter, i edited my badly worded post to clarify while u were replying; i'm just thinking about the HSF clearance primarily?
Thanks for clarifying. That's a good question. We'll have to wait for Sandog to receive his and let us know if it requires taller than normal standoffs (I'd guess it does) and if so, how much taller.
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Re: Asus Sabertooth Z87

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ASUS Zenbook Infinity very interesting Ultrabook. I can see
your interest fv. I'm just not a mobile person. My mobility
consist of a two mile walk daily in the park. And that time is
for prayer and Meditation. Man-cave is my abode...

By the by I do visit Microcenter now and again....
I need a laptop on the boat so that gives me a good excuse for a new laptop...LOL...sorry for off topic now back the the Sabertooth...
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Hey FV.

My itch is subsiding. IMHO, while the ST is a great looking board, reality has set in. I have never kept a board for more than two or three years, so the warranty is moot.

I feel the shroud/cooling is somewhat of a gimmick. Perhaps a wee bit cooler around some components, but nothing earth shattering. Dust/dander will still enter.

Reinforced backplate is great if your going to OC and use a HSF that is heavy. I now prefer the liquid coolers so reinforcement is also moot

The positive air pressure thing with the acc fan, means to me that whatever dust/dander that does come through, is now stuck in place forever

As far as reducing dust/dander, my once a year opening of the case for cleaning/hardware upgrade usually includes some brushing and air blasting!

Don't like the colors of Gigabyte anymore. iMac is way to high. So when the prices drop, and a further rev., I'll probaly get a "Pro" as it's minimal.

BTW, beautiful Ultrabook. For the boat and travel it'll perform superbly.





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I know I'm feeling it too, the itch, LOL, I really like the Sabertooth and even though you would never see it the backplate is nice, I was watching a video with JJ from Asus yesterday and the fan at i/o shield is supposed to be blowing in and it has a filter, he said you want it going that direction for sure to have positive pressure in the shielding. Your right it wouldn't really be worth it for us, I think I'm putting my pennies towards a Haswell Ultrabook, probably this one!

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Old 06-09-2013, 09:13 PM   #72
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On the STZ87 clearances. The board sits at the same height off the case as every mobo, The back I/O ports sit at the same height as all other ATX mobo''s. The back plate has room underneath the mobo equivalent to the height of the case standoffs. The back plate probably comes close to touching the case. The shroud over the regulators is a normal height maybe slightly more and the higher shroud over the I/O ports is new but I don't think it will interfere with the rear case fan or CPU HSF. There is a clearance spec for the CPU HSF that is suppose to be met. I will be installing a 140mm radiator (try) with the Sabertooth and if it fits anything should. Right now with my 140mm rear case fan I have almost 1/2" clearance from the top of the I/O ports.

If you were going to upgrade you would have already had your mind made up months ago like me. Those that have the i7-2700 do not really need to upgrade and those that have the i7-3770 won't gain much at all in regards to performance. Me on the other hand will gain quite a bit. I like the benchmarks the i7-4770 is getting. An over clocked one reaches past an i7-3960 in gaming benches.
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Well I should have the EVGA GTX 780 back plate, the Corsair H90 140mm Hydro cooler, and the ASUS Z87 Sabertooth this week which will complete my build. I will keep you guys posted.
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Well I should have the EVGA GTX 780 back plate, the Corsair H90 140mm Hydro cooler, and the ASUS Z87 Sabertooth this week which will complete my build. I will keep you guys posted.
Lots of goodies next week fun-ya...

I'll be quite interested in the ASUS Z87 Sabertooth and how
your build goes, looking forward to it...
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Cool you guys it will be interesting to see and here about your new builds...
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