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Old 01-04-2012, 05:36 PM   #1
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AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

What: AMD (NYSE: AMD) today updated its A-Series line-up of desktop and notebook Accelerated Processing Units (APUs), further improving its top-performing family of dual- and quad-core APUs. Along with speed and performance improvements, AMD Steady Video update make this unique feature more compelling than ever.1 For desktop users, AMD extends its overclocking pedigree to the APU; for the first time users can tune both x86 and graphics settings in a single processor for boosted performance.2


The updated AMD A-Series APUs combine up to four x86 CPU cores with up to 400 Radeon™ cores, delivering powerful DirectX®11-capable, discrete-level graphics and dedicated HD video processing on a single chip. These new APUs increase performance and deliver a richer feature set than existing AMD A-series APUs. Plus, only AMD APUs offer AMD Dual Graphics for an up to 144 percent visual performance boost when a select APU is paired with a select AMD Radeon™ HD 6500 Series graphics card.3


Read the full article HERE.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:53 PM   #2
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

Thanks for the heads up. I still have an A75/A8/HD6670/16GB rig on my radar. I think it would make a very capable, reasonably priced (<$500) rig.

Like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131765
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819106001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121442
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145347

$455. Not bad.
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:47 PM   #3
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

I agree----and this is where AMD needs to stake out it's turf...pretty darn solid, high performance, everyday desktop machines that are much cheaper in high volume than Intel.....

processing power less
But graphics power much more

And the common user will never notice the difference in processing power----but they WILL with the graphics!

forget Bulldozer and trying to compete at the very high end

Concentrate on clean simple, cheap systems that they can sell a bezzilion of to Dell and HP, business and schools.....

that are durable and actually quite good!
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:31 PM   #4
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I agree----and this is where AMD needs to stake out it's turf...pretty darn solid, high performance, everyday desktop machines that are much cheaper in high volume than Intel.....

processing power less
But graphics power much more

And the common user will never notice the difference in processing power----but they WILL with the graphics!

forget Bulldozer and trying to compete at the very high end

Concentrate on clean simple, cheap systems that they can sell a bezzilion of to Dell and HP, business and schools.....

that are durable and actually quite good!
Very well said John.
Dell or HP could probably sell a complete machine like that for ~$500, including monitor, keyboard and mouse. And, it would easily meet ALL the performance needs of an average user.
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:33 AM   #5
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

Yes I am seriously considering purchasing one now, since they now have unlocked multipliers for OC'n...

I'm still going to wait for tax return, but this is really what I want to start with for a new build.


Will that PCIE 2.1 card work with that PCIE 2.0 MB?
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

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Yes I am seriously considering purchasing one now, since they now have unlocked multipliers for OC'n...

I'm still going to wait for tax return, but this is really what I want to start with for a new build.




Will that PCIE 2.1 card work with that PCIE 2.0 MB?
It is my understanding that PCIe 2.1 cards are backwards compatible to PCIe 2.0 slots, without any performance impact.
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

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Thanks for the heads up. I still have an A75/A8/HD6670/16GB rig on my radar. I think it would make a very capable, reasonably priced (<$500) rig.

Like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131765
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819106001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121442
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145347

$455. Not bad.
I am going with these as they will not get in the way of heatsinks, because I always replace AND stock coolers for obvious reasons mentioned many times.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220558
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I am going with these as they will not get in the way of heatsinks, because I always replace AND stock coolers for obvious reasons mentioned many times.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220558
Or, if height is an issue, you could use these instead of the ones I posted above:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233198
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Those would be good. Either one as they would cost the same. I have Patriot G2 and they preform very nicely and they are 1.65v. Here is something about the CPU.. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...allium3d&num=1
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

I would like to see how these perform on video rendering. All I have found so far are gaming stats.

I've started recording some game play, and I would like to see some data from these processors concerning rendering.

It takes me over an hour to render a fifteen minute video @ 720p, so it really is time for me to purchase new hardware...
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

Sale at Newegg through 01 Feb. $130 & free shipping with promo code: EMCNJHD27
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819106001
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

Newegg's got a 10% off promo code on the CPU, a $15 MIR on the motherboard I want and a $20 MIR on the video card I want. Well, that finally pushed me over the edge and I pulled the trigger on these parts:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819106001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131765
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121442

That's $294 after promo code and MIRs!

This will be the first AMD rig I build in more than 10 years!
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:21 AM   #13
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

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Newegg's got a 10% off promo code on the CPU, a $15 MIR on the motherboard I want and a $20 MIR on the video card I want. Well, that finally pushed me over the edge and I pulled the trigger on these parts:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819106001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131765
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121442

That's $294 after promo code and MIRs!

This will be the first AMD rig I build in more than 10 years!
Perfect:----almost exactly the same as what I used----except I had a Sapphire 6670 that was GDDR5

Couple of tips to make your life easier....
1. Turn on AHCI in BIOS BEFORE you load Windows
2. Do your build and get everything running----then----only after you have a solid working system----turn on the onboard video in BIOS. You must set it to Enable----and also set the other Setting to FORCE. leave the Cache setting to Auto (at least for now----you can change the Cache setting of the onboard later----but every time I did FORCE and changed the cache at the same time I got an overclock failure. It should default to 512----you can change the Cache all the way to 2 GB depending on how much RAM you want to lose from Windows use later after the Crossfire is working properly. (mine is set to 2GB as I had 16 GB of RAM to work with.)
3. Your RAM will probably default to 1333-----and you will have to go back in and manually set DDR 1600 (or whatever you have) in the BIOS. You can also check the actual JDEC standard and timings for what will work with the board for your in place memory in the last Tab of the Asus UEFI BIOS (A nice feature)----then manually set those timings if the Board is not Auto recognizing.
4. Best overclock resuts I got was from setting the Digi +VRM to High and
110-120% on most settings----I also used a combination of increasing the bus AND multiplier----if I remember correctly----I used a multi of 33 and a bus of 104. bus increases will increase your RAM speed so you may have to boost voltages a bit on your Ram.
5. I left all the cool'n quiet stuff on and AMD's version of SpeedStep and the processor scales up and down nicely based on demand. The auto voltage from Dig +VRM is nice as it scales up and down as well---I let it auto pick the offset voltage as well. My voltage goes as high as 1.514 on highest demand but usually is never that high. I ran OCCT for two hours on it and the voltage stayed at 1.514----and the Quad Core never missed a beat. Temps never got higher than 52 C----but I splurged and have a Corsair H-60 Watercooler with Gelid 120 fans in push-pull on an Amazon special for $50. Air cooling may give higher results----can't say.
6. Do NOT use the latest WHQL 12.1 Drivers if you want Accelerated Parallel Processing and the AMD VideoConverter to function with the A8. The WHQL 11.12 package works perfectly. (I submitted a bug report to AMD about this).
Also----make sure you get ALL of what is needed from AMD. They have an odd way of posting their actual AMD chipset Drivers
You want:
11.12 Catalyst Drivers and CCC
11.12 CAP3 Profile's (These are the profiles that enable Crossfire in Apps and Games)
11.12 AMD Media Codec Package
11.12 AHCI Driver
11.12 SB Driver
AMD System Monitor 1.0.0.9
If you are doing RAID----you will also want the 11.12 RAID and the 11.12 RAID xtra drivers
You will have to dig through the net to get the 11.12 versions as it seems ATI/AMD is only posting the WHQL 12.1 version
If you don't care about AMD APP and the AMD VideoConverter-----the 12.1 Version is fine. Again---I have a bug report into AMD and I'm sure they will fix this soon.

Hybrid Crossfire will auto recognize once you have changed your BIOS settings and your Catalyst drivers are loaded. Remember to have the profiles loaded as well.

Good luck and feel free to ask me any questions----John
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

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Perfect:----almost exactly the same as what I used----except I had a Sapphire 6670 that was GDDR5

Couple of tips to make your life easier....
1. Turn on AHCI in BIOS BEFORE you load Windows
2. Do your build and get everything running----then----only after you have a solid working system----turn on the onboard video in BIOS. You must set it to Enable----and also set the other Setting to FORCE. leave the Cache setting to Auto (at least for now----you can change the Cache setting of the onboard later----but every time I did FORCE and changed the cache at the same time I got an overclock failure. It should default to 512----you can change the Cache all the way to 2 GB depending on how much RAM you want to lose from Windows use later after the Crossfire is working properly. (mine is set to 2GB as I had 16 GB of RAM to work with.)
3. Your RAM will probably default to 1333-----and you will have to go back in and manually set DDR 1600 (or whatever you have) in the BIOS. You can also check the actual JDEC standard and timings for what will work with the board for your in place memory in the last Tab of the Asus UEFI BIOS (A nice feature)----then manually set those timings if the Board is not Auto recognizing.
4. Best overclock resuts I got was from setting the Digi +VRM to High and
110-120% on most settings----I also used a combination of increasing the bus AND multiplier----if I remember correctly----I used a multi of 33 and a bus of 104. bus increases will increase your RAM speed so you may have to boost voltages a bit on your Ram.
5. I left all the cool'n quiet stuff on and AMD's version of SpeedStep and the processor scales up and down nicely based on demand. The auto voltage from Dig +VRM is nice as it scales up and down as well---I let it auto pick the offset voltage as well. My voltage goes as high as 1.514 on highest demand but usually is never that high. I ran OCCT for two hours on it and the voltage stayed at 1.514----and the Quad Core never missed a beat. Temps never got higher than 52 C----but I splurged and have a Corsair H-60 Watercooler with Gelid 120 fans in push-pull on an Amazon special for $50. Air cooling may give higher results----can't say.
6. Do NOT use the latest WHQL 12.1 Drivers if you want Accelerated Parallel Processing and the AMD VideoConverter to function with the A8. The WHQL 11.12 package works perfectly. (I submitted a bug report to AMD about this).
Also----make sure you get ALL of what is needed from AMD. They have an odd way of posting their actual AMD chipset Drivers
You want:
11.12 Catalyst Drivers and CCC
11.12 CAP3 Profile's (These are the profiles that enable Crossfire in Apps and Games)
11.12 AMD Media Codec Package
11.12 AHCI Driver
11.12 SB Driver
AMD System Monitor 1.0.0.9
If you are doing RAID----you will also want the 11.12 RAID and the 11.12 RAID xtra drivers
You will have to dig through the net to get the 11.12 versions as it seems ATI/AMD is only posting the WHQL 12.1 version
If you don't care about AMD APP and the AMD VideoConverter-----the 12.1 Version is fine. Again---I have a bug report into AMD and I'm sure they will fix this soon.

Hybrid Crossfire will auto recognize once you have changed your BIOS settings and your Catalyst drivers are loaded. Remember to have the profiles loaded as well.

Good luck and feel free to ask me any questions----John
WOW! That's a lot of good info! Thanks John.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:23 PM   #15
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Re: AMD Raises the Bar on Desktop and Notebook A-Series APUs

John,
just wondering, why start with the discreet gpu and then enable the on-board? Before I read your post, I was planning on doing it the other way around, i.e. start with the on-board gpu and then add the discreet gpu.
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Desktop:
Corsair 550D & AX750, Asus Sabertooth
Z87, i7-4770K, 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600, Asus Strix GTX 970 4GB, Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD
Antec SOLO II, Corsair TX650M, Asus ROG Crossblade Ranger, AMD A10-7890K, 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600, Asus R9 270X DirectCU II TOP 2GB,

Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD
Antec SOLO, Corsair TX650, Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P, Intel Q9550, 4x2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800,
EVGA GTX560Ti SC 1GB, Asus U3S6, Corsair Force GT 120GB SSD
Mobile:
Acer Aspire V5-552G-x852, AMD A10-5757M, Radeon 8750M 2GB, 2x4GB DDR3,
Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD
Acer Aspire V3-551G-X419, AMD A10-4600M, Radeon 7670M 2GB, 2x4GB Corsair DDR3 1333, Corsair Force GT 120GB SSD

Asus Eee PC 1215B-PU17, AMD E-350, 2x4GB Corsair DDR3 1333, OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SSD

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