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Old 07-25-2017, 06:47 PM   #1
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* Intel i9-7900x *

It been interesting last two days, playing with the 10 core monster i9-7900x
cpu, on a ASUS ROG STRIX X299- E Gaming mobo. A real wow factor in me
last couple of days. I still have my Extreme V edition 10 mobo and cpu. I
giving the i9-7900 a 30 day trial period, to see how goes. I just got off of playing DOOM for an hour,
with all 10 cores @ 4.6 mhz. The temps were good, in the 60's range, surprised me.
Oc'ed GPU 67-69c area. 3DMARK score 10217.
HEAVEN extreme FPS 182, MIN @ 38, Max @ 359, cpu temp 68c, all 10 cores
running @ 4.6 mhz. AIDA64 readings, were most of cores were running @ 46c to 49c,
except for cores 5/6 were @ 72c for 5 and 65c for core 6. As for the ASUS ROG STRIX X299- E Gaming mobo,
its pretty skimpy, But that was Why I got it. The
Deluxe and other were having lots of problems. These mobos were put out
the door to quick, bios needs upgraded. But the 7900x may turn out to be one
L of a cpu after the bios on mobos mature... So far I've got things running ok.
But it took some fine tuning. The bios is a different type of animal, from the
ROG Extreme V edition 10 mobo's bios. Anywho all in all, its been fun, everything new and different...
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:38 PM   #2
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

Congrats Skully, so you skipped 8 core and went straight to a 10 core.

I am curious if Skylake-X would be better than Broadwell-E since they are both on 14nm. I did not like the way Broadwell-E got hot, I thought it had too much heat in too small an area to be able to cool well. I certainly hope Skylake is better. 10 cores at 4.6GHz is quite a beast going on there. There is no keeping up with you Skully that is for sure.

BTW, I looked at the STRIX 299 a couple of nights ago and that is the one I would get to. The ROG Extreme APEX or whatever did not have any info. on it yet.

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Old 07-26-2017, 08:00 AM   #3
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

Congrats Skully, there no grass growing under your feet that's for sure!
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:10 AM   #4
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

Thanks guys, one good thing was my water block, Intel 750 1.2 tb drive,
and Corsair memory worked without a hitch, also my windows os worked
with some cleaning up. DOOM plays the same or better then me i7 6850
6 core cpu. The i9-7900X not only utilizes a fast first core, but uses the
first 2 cores, and they are fast. Man in the bios, with 10 cores to set, the
different cores, to different speeds, ya almost have to pack brown bag lunch,
to keep going through the list, as its so looonng
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Old 07-26-2017, 05:32 PM   #5
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

So at default clocks and with using Intel Turbo Boost in Windows, what are the top clocks the two fast cores go to?

I think my 6850K said Turbo was 3.9GHz but when using Turbo Boost 3.0 I was getting 4.1GHz out of my fastest core (stock). I did read that Intel upgraded Turbo Boost 3.0 for Skylake to include the fastest two cores now.

I can't believe you have a 10 core CPU Skully, that is a heck of a lot of cores. If you were to have two fast cores that would leave 8 which is still more than I have lol.

BTW everyone, I saw a really good price on CPU's the other day from a Monoprice on Ebay. It is new. They had the 6850K for like $389 yesterday.
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Old 07-26-2017, 05:41 PM   #6
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

Let me ask you this Skully, do you like having the 10 cores and do you think you will keep it? I have the opportunity to buy brand new 5960X CPU for $650 but I am still on the fence. I want to know if the power used/required and the heat is that much greater than the 6 core you had.
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Old 07-26-2017, 05:51 PM   #7
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

Most likely will not keep it, but its to soon to be sure. I'm just
playing around, this setup will tire me petty soon, as it just takes
to much fine tuning. Maybe a bios update may change me mind...
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Old 07-26-2017, 07:48 PM   #8
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

I was waiting for more reviews of the new CPU's and how they OC. That is where I posted the other day when I was reading. The power consumption looked high on the new CPU's.
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

You must be using a heck of a lot of power benchmarking with 10 cores running 4.6GHz. I was hitting 390W benchmarking in Intel XTU with 6 cores at 4.5GHz.
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:41 PM   #10
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

I have a few things to say that should be taken with a grain of salt. I do not want to try and persuade, dissuade, or 'suade in general anyone from their purchases, especially Skully. Just going to add my .02$ based on opinion from what I know and feel so far and my opinion will certainly change over time.

The 7900 CPU is a killer CPU. It is the most killer CPU ever. I did not say IMHO because it is a fact. For the desktop CPU arena, it is the strongest CPU ever by way of having 10 cores and from benchmark results. Here is the read you should read and check out the benchmarks.

The Intel Skylake-X Review: Core i9 7900X, i7 7820X and i7 7800X Tested


Pros
  • Most powerful desktop CPU ever
  • 10-core
  • Two dual-channel ports for AVX512-F (increases math ops significantly)
  • 44 PCI lanes to CPU
  • Turbo 3.0 allows all 10 cores to do 4GHz or 2 cores to do 4.3GHz
  • Appears to be tame at stock voltage with low Vcore and good temps
  • Slaughters all other CPU's even the 7820 8-core which only has 1 dual channel ports for AVX512-F and 28 PCI lanes
  • Supports Intel Optane
  • OC's easy at low voltage i.e. 4.6GHz @ 1.2V but uses insane power under load
  • Officially supports DDR 2666 but reviews are running it under DDR 3200
  • $999 and may get cheaper depending on Ryzen success

    Cons
  • Very high power usage when OC'd, might not want to OC at all or much
  • VRM overheating issues ATT
  • Turbo feature requires BIOS and Win driver support
  • Very green CPU that has issues, will require lots of BIOS updates, Windows updates, support from Intel, and better 3rd party software support to take advantage of the features (DX12 is one).

I really like this CPU. It uses thermal past between the die and top lid and also gets hot very quickly due to it being 14nm like Broadwell-E does. But, it is the most powerful desktop CPU ever and very future proof. I am really impressed with the benchmark scores. The reason I am following this CPU is Skully brought it to my attention unexpectedly but I was planning on buying a 5960X for $650. Well the new 7820X beats the 5960X pretty good in everything and it is $599. But, the 7900X beats the 7820X in everything and not only because it has two more cores. In other words, I like the 7900 not because it is a 10-core but because of how good the benchmarks are. I have a seperate post to make so ...to be cont.
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Old 07-27-2017, 04:27 PM   #11
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

I call this the LGBT mobo project lol.

YouTube

One of the biggest fails for staying on the cutting edge performance wise and getting a Skylake-X HEDT system would be losing the ROG RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 mobo. I can't fathom how much this would hurt to lose this mobo. I want to show you pictures of the ROG RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 which is loaded to the brim with the best ASUS could put on it. It is a Supreme X99 edition and has every best option, feature, and construction ASUS has ever put on a mobo. It even came with the best piece of audio hardware ever included with a mobo. The SupremeFX Hi-Fi' with ESS Saber DAC and with a nice front panel, volume control, and gold plated 1/4" jacks.

The kicker is the new STRIX X299 is very basic. It is even labeled a non-OCing board when all ASUS boards were supposed to be OCable. The body-slam is they want $350 for this board. I will just let this YT video do the talking. There is no nice I/O panel, no back plates, only 1 button, looks skimpy, and it comes in a cheap packaged box.

ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING unboxing
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ROG RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 unboxing
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

I think there are things ya can do, like keep unnecessary voltage down.
Don't use 12v 4 pin plug in. Its only need for really extreme oc'ing. Every little bit of voltage to the 7900X, the temps go crazy...
I can get 4.5mhz @ 1.2 vcore volts, and it takes 1.3v to get a stable 4.6mhz. Wife just came with food, more later
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I think there are things ya can do, like keep unnecessary voltage down.
Don't use 12v 4 pin plug in. Its only need for really extreme oc'ing. Every little bit of voltage to the 7900X, the temps go crazy...
I can get 4.5mhz @ 1.2 vcore volts, and it takes 1.3v to get a stable 4.6mhz. Wife just came with food, more later
So basically what you are saying is if you run at default which hits 4.3GHz on 2/10 cores you are fine but if you OC, you can not cool this beast?

They make it sound good that you can hit 4.5/4.6GHz with only 1.2V but the bad part is it gets +90C and uses almost 400W under load. And I know Broadwell-E 14nm, temps rise instantly at their will and it appears cooling solutions have no effect.

What are your temps at 4.5GHz Skully? Post some pics of AIDA64 and RealTemp running please? I would be fine at 4.5GHz or even 4.4GHz.

So that is the conundrum, to stick with a great built special edition mobo and get an 8 core Haswell-E that heats and cools like a typical CPU or go with Skylake-X in which everything goes downhill except the benchmarks and being on the cutting edge lol.
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Old 07-27-2017, 05:19 PM   #14
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Re: * Intel i9-7900x *

Yea ya have a good idea of whats, what with the 7900X, I'can't upload
pic's, how do you guys do it...
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Pics have to be under 500kbits I believe, just go to the safety pin above lol and upload attachments.
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