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Old 08-23-2018, 09:10 PM   #46
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These are the sticks I am considering. Specs are between the 2 you guys posted.
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C15 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0134EW7G8...v_ov_lig_dp_it
why not just go for 3200?...a lot of articles I've read online call 3200 the sweet spot in terms of performance
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:16 AM   #47
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Re: new system build/help/advice

Not sure. I guess I'll look at some 2666 and 3200 as well.


I don't see any Asus Z390 boards. Are they supposed to come out with the 9700 CPUs?
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:23 AM   #48
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Not sure. I guess I'll look at some 2666 and 3200 as well.


I don't see any Asus Z390 boards. Are they supposed to come out with the 9700 CPUs?
I think so PeterT, but I also think that with a bios upgrade the 370 boards will work (I read that somewhere not 100% sure on that), I'll keep a eye open for those 390 boards for sure! Good morning by the way!

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Z370 support for Intels Core i9 Coffee Lake 8-core now confirmed | PCGamesN
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:40 AM   #49
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Re: new system build/help/advice

Hi polonyc2

Your list of parts look very good. I just built a complete new system for a friend with a Z370 except I used ASUS ROG Maximus X Formula Z370.
link to the thread here Z370 Computer Build for Friend - ABXZone Computer Forums

The 8700k overclocks very well, And as of 6/08/18, the top 86% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.0GHz.

The one I build for my friend was able to hit 5.0 with these settings and still remain very cool for that over clock.
CPU Multiplier: 50
BCLK: 100.0
CPU Vcore: 1.30V
AVX Offset: 1

the NVME m.2 drive I used I place in the m.2-1 slot of the motherboard which is underneath the chipset heatsink.
helps to keep the drive cooled and runs off the chipset pci lanes so it doesn't take away from the 16 lanes on the cpu.

FV has given some great advice, He's always one of the guys here that I respect and appreciate.

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Old 08-24-2018, 02:02 PM   #50
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Re: new system build/help/advice

Well thank you exc for the kind words....makes a old fart feel good!
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Old 08-24-2018, 03:54 PM   #51
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I don't see any Asus Z390 boards. Are they supposed to come out with the 9700 CPUs?
Z390 is for the 9000 series...at least this time Intel will actually allow users to upgrade without having to buy a new motherboard...one of the good things about AMD is that they support their platforms for years...I think their current chipset is supposed to last for 5 years

since the 9000 series chips are just 5 weeks from release it's definitely better to wait a bit while figuring out the other parts of your build...
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:06 PM   #52
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Hi polonyc2

Your list of parts look very good. I just built a complete new system for a friend with a Z370 except I used ASUS ROG Maximus X Formula Z370.
link to the thread here Z370 Computer Build for Friend - ABXZone Computer Forums

The 8700k overclocks very well, And as of 6/08/18, the top 86% of tested 8700Ks were able to hit 5.0GHz.

The one I build for my friend was able to hit 5.0 with these settings and still remain very cool for that over clock.
CPU Multiplier: 50
BCLK: 100.0
CPU Vcore: 1.30V
AVX Offset: 1

the NVME m.2 drive I used I place in the m.2-1 slot of the motherboard which is underneath the chipset heatsink.
helps to keep the drive cooled and runs off the chipset pci lanes so it doesn't take away from the 16 lanes on the cpu.

FV has given some great advice, He's always one of the guys here that I respect and appreciate.

AWESOME PARTS LIST.
nice system you built for your friend!...the Asus Strix board I am planning on getting has two m.2 slots...the first one is in a much better area then the second in terms of heat...

I agree that fvbounty is a great guy and really knows his stuff concerning computer hardware etc...ABX is lucky to have him
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Old 08-24-2018, 07:00 PM   #53
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Re: new system build/help/advice

When I was researching the parts for my friends build, I was actually going to use the ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming.
The reviews of the board (OC3D) in particular, was saying that the boards LLC (Load Line Calibration) was not working at all,
no matter what you set it to in the bios, the bios has 1 through 7 settings for LLC.
Here's a link of the rant on the asus strix Z370's, He does a very nice job of explaining what LLC and V-droop is.
Asus Strix Z370 Full Unedited RANT - YouTube

Now I planed on overclocking from the start, and LLC and V-droop is very important in terms of overclocking and I didn't want to have that kind of trouble with my friends build.

The ASUS ROG Maximus X line-up was not having any of these issues which is why I chose that board.

You on the other hand, may very well be fine with the ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming if you only plan on light overclocking.
But I seriously suggest that you research the board further if you are planing on heavy overclcking like I did on my friends system.

Asus might have fixed the LLC / V-droop issue on thier strix boards by now.

But let me be clear polonyc2, I'm not trying to steer you away from this board, it IS a very nice board, and it DID get very good reviews from the testers.
I just wanted to share what I found when I was researching that board.
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Old 08-24-2018, 07:19 PM   #54
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When I was researching the parts for my friends build, I was actually going to use the ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming.
The reviews of the board (OC3D) in particular, was saying that the boards LLC (Load Line Calibration) was not working at all,
no matter what you set it to in the bios, the bios has 1 through 7 settings for LLC.
Here's a link of the rant on the asus strix Z370's, He does a very nice job of explaining what LLC and V-droop is.
Asus Strix Z370 Full Unedited RANT - YouTube

Now I planed on overclocking from the start, and LLC and V-droop is very important in terms of overclocking and I didn't want to have that kind of trouble with my friends build.

The ASUS ROG Maximus X line-up was not having any of these issues which is why I chose that board.

You on the other hand, may very well be fine with the ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming if you only plan on light overclocking.
But I seriously suggest that you research the board further if you are planing on heavy overclcking like I did on my friends system.

Asus might have fixed the LLC / V-droop issue on thier strix boards by now.

But let me be clear polonyc2, I'm not trying to steer you away from this board, it IS a very nice board, and it DID get very good reviews from the testers.
I just wanted to share what I found when I was researching that board.
thanks for the heads up...I need to look into this further...maybe even switch to one of the Gigabyte boards
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Old 08-24-2018, 07:55 PM   #55
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I think so PeterT, but I also think that with a bios upgrade the 370 boards will work (I read that somewhere not 100% sure on that), I'll keep a eye open for those 390 boards for sure! Good morning by the way!

Look what I found...
Z370 support for Intels Core i9 Coffee Lake 8-core now confirmed | PCGamesN

Looks like the i9 and z390 will be available within a couple of months...
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Looks like the i9 and z390 will be available within a couple of months...
October 1st is the rumored date Intel is set to launch the 9000 series
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