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Post P4P800 Deluxe - Guide

UPDATED October 23rd 2004

Asus P4P800 Deluxe Oficial Page:
http://www.asus.com/products/mb/sock...d/overview.htm

P4P800 Oficial details:

Intel 865 PE chipset
Leveraging the Intel 865PE chipset to support 3.2 GHz+ P4 CPU on 800MHz FSB, Dual DDR 400 memory, Intel Hyper - Threading Technology, and a full-range of advanced features, P4P800 Deluxe really delivers a full-value, high-performance solution for today's most demanding tasks.
Dual-Channel DDR400 Dual-channel DDR technology doubles the bandwidth of your system memory and hence boost the system performance to out perform any memory existing solutions in the market. System bottlenecks are eliminated with balanced architecture and peak bandwidths up to 6.4GB/s.
AI NET The AI Series supports Gigabit LAN by integrating the 3COM 3C940 controller, equipped with a unique net-diagnosing Marvell utility-- VCT (Virtual Cable Tester). The controller intelligently detects net connection status up to 100 meters from a remote location and reports the distance of bad cable.
AI AUDIO (6-channel digital audio) AI series motherboards employed the world's first intelligent audio CODEC. The 6-channel AD1985 audio CODEC automatically detects and identifies what types of peripherals are plugged into the audio I/O jacks and notifies users of inappropriate connection, meaning there will be no more confusion of Line-in, Line-out and Mic jacks.
CrashFree BIOS 2 Whenever BIOS gets corrupted, ASUS CrashFree BIOS 2 allows users to reboot the computer and perform an smart auto-recovery procedure through the motherboard support CD.
Q-Fan Technology This unique technology intelligently and automatically adjusts CPU fan speeds according to system load and temperature, enabling users to work in a distraction-free environment with minimal noise.
ASUS POST Reporter A voice warning design during POST notifies users of any system errors, which means no more complicated LED messages!
AI Overclocking A unique option in BIOS that enables quick overclocking up to 30% (depends on CPU and RAM). It automatically detects and optimizes every relevant parameter to provide both performance and stability.
IDE RAID The VIA IDE-RAID controller supports two-channel ATA 133, enabling users to build Maximum 4 ATA-133 hard disk as an RAID0, 1 , 0+1 , JBOD array. And the graphical user interface provides an easy way to configure and manage disk drives or disk arrays connected.
IEEE 1394 interface IEEE 1394 interface provides high speed digital interface for audio / video appliances such as digital television, digital video camcorders, storage peripherals & other PC portable devices.
AGP8X AGP8X (AGP 3.0) is the next generation VGA interface specification that enables enhanced graphics performance with high bandwidth up to 2.12GB/s.
ICH5R with Integrated SATA and RAID 0 Intel is the world's first chipset maker to integrate Serial ATA (SATA) and RAID 0 functions into the South Bridge. The latest ICH5R chipset now delivers 150MB/s fast data transfer (SATA) and striping performance (RAID 0) to enhance computing efficiency. (Supported WinXP only)
Max. 8 USB 2.0 ports supports USB 2.0 is the latest connectivity standard for next generation components and peripherals. Backwards compatible with current USB 1.1 peripherals, USB 2.0 delivers transfer speeds up to 40 times faster at 480Mb/s, for easy connectivity and ultra-fast data transfers.
Multi-language BIOS ASUS provides friendly localized BIOS setup menu to help you configure your system as easy as possible.

P4P800 Components List:
-Socket 478 for Intel Pentium 4/Celeron up to 3.2GHz+
-Intel Hyper-Threading Technology ready
-New power design supports Intel next generation Prescott CPU
-Chipset Intel 865PE MCH - Intel ICH5R
-Memory 4 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max. 4GB PC3200/2700/2100 non-ECC DDR SDRAM memory Dual Channel Memory Architecture
-Slots - 1 x AGP 8X/4X (0.8V, 1.5V only) - 5 x PCI - 1 x ASUS WIFI Connector for optional wireless LAN upgrade
-Storage: -2 x UltraDMA 100/66/33 -2 x Serial ATA, RAID 0 (Microsoft Windows XP only) VIA6410 RAID controller: -2 x UltraDMA 133 support four hard drives -RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, JBOD
-Audio ADI AD1985 SoundMAX 6-channel CODEC Audio Sensing and Enumeration Technology support S/PDIF out interface
-Net -3COM Gigabit Lan PCI Controller supporting 10/100/1000 BASE-T Ethernet -Virtual Cable Tester™Net-Diagnosing Utility
-IEE1394 VIA 1394 controller with 2 1394 ports
-I/O 1 x Parallel 1 x Serial 1 x PS/2 Keyboard 1 x PS/2 Mouse 1 x Audio I/O 1 x RJ45 1 x S/PDIF Output 4 x USB 2.0/1.1 1 x IEEE1394
-Internal connectors - 2 x USB 2.0 connector supports additional 4 USB 2.0 ports - CPU / Chassis / Power FAN connectors - 20-pin ATX Power connector - 4-pin ATX 12V Power connector - Chassis Intrusion - S/PDIF out connector - CD / AUX / Modem audio in - 1 x IEEE1394 ports - GAME/MIDI connector - 2 x SATA ports - COM2 connector - Front panel audio connector
-Versions supported PCI 2.2, PCI 2.3, USB 2.0
-In the box User's manual 2 x UltraDMA 100/66 cable 2 x Serial ATA cable 1 x IDE cable FDD cable I/O shield InterVideo WinDVD Suite
-Size ATX Form Factor, 12"x 9.6"(30.5cm x 24.5cm)

Links for reviews with P4P800 Deluxe:
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardwa..._deluxe_review
http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/asus-p4p800
http://www.lostcircuits.com/motherboard/asus_p4p800
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDg0LDE=
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai...us-p4p800.html

Drivers:
ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-suppo...nfinst_enu.exe [Intel Chipset Instalation Software v5.02.1002 - this one installs AGP, SATA, IDE drivers - MUST INSTALL]
ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-suppo.../iaa23_enu.exe [Intel Aplication Accelerator v2.3 - enhances Intel functions, but still doesn't work with P4P800D]
ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-suppo...iaar35_enu.exe [Intel Application Accelerator RAID Edition v3.5]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/...10raid_120.zip [VIA IDE/RAID drivers v1.20 - needed only if you enable it from bios]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/lan/3.../044_3c940.zip [3COM driver v1.00.00.0044 - only if you enable 3COM from bios]
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...4P800%20Deluxe [Asus oficial download page]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/...85WDM_3630.zip [Audio driver v.5.12.01.3630 - only if you enable the onboard soundcard]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/...5usb2_98me.zip [USB 2.0 Drivers v1.1.0.2 for Win9x/ME]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/...ch5usb2_2K.zip [USB 2.0 Drivers v1.0 for Win2k]

[BIOS: [Don't fix it if it's not broke]
Look here for the Bigtoe's bios files. Email him if you don't find the one you need: bigtoe@abxzone.com
http://www.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/s...0/P4P81018.zip [Bios v1018 Final]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...0/P4P81009.zip [Bios v1009 final - former beta 08]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...0/p4p81008.zip [Bios v1008 final - former Beta 04]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...0/P4P81007.zip [Bios v1007 final]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...00/P4P1006.zip [Bios v1006 final]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...800/AFUDOS.zip [AFUDOS - the utility needed to flash manually]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/fl...supdt51601.zip [Asus Live Update Bios - update bios from Windows - not recommended]

Some utils for diagnostic/test/benchmark P4P800Deluxe
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/...probe22104.zip [Asus PCProbe helps you with reading temps/voltages/fan speeds, DMI infos, etc]
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/download/MBM5340.EXE [MBM -Motherboard Monitor v5.3.4.0, as an alternative to PCProbe]
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...800_deluxe.pdf [Asus P4P800 manual in english]
http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-119.zip [Informations about CPU/FSB/AGP v1.19 - get this to find out if you have enabled PAT]
http://www.cpuid.com/download/CG-ICS952607.zip [Oveclocking in software from author of CPU-Z]
http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/redirect/dload.php?id=32 [Sisoft Sandra Standard MAX3! 9.73]
http://www2.justnet.ne.jp/~kusuto/PI...ish/s_pi-e.exe [SuperPI - nice calculation/test program]
ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/p95v2212.zip [Prim95 v22.12 - The Best Torture Program]
http://folding.stanford.edu/release/Folding@Home3.EXE [FOLDING@HOME - nice torture calculation program for folding proteins, agregation and related diseases]
http://www.memtest86.com/memt30.zip [Memtest - find errors in memory - good for overclockers to check if memory is unstable]
ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/ctiaw.zip [CTIAW - nice way to find out if PAT is enabled, and more]
http://www.aida32.hu/download/aida32ee_370.zip [Aida32 v3.70 Enterprise Edition - Sometimes better than Sisoft Sandra and FREE]

Some links to help you with overclocking:
http://www.overclockers.com
http://www.cpudatabase.com/CPUdb/ [See how much your P4 can be overclocked !!!]

Known bios changes and Asus recomandations for every bios:

-v1006:
Do not use Aflash.exe / EZflash /Afudos.exe to update BIOSV1006
Extract all the files into the floppy disk,and simply run P4P1006.exe under DOS mode,the BIOS update will execute automatically.Please refer to the readme file included in the zipped file for the details of BIOS update procedure.
Improve overclocking capability when FSB is greater than 300MHz.
Fix the system cant boot from bus powered USB ZIP-250 drive sometimes.
Improve overclocking margin for FSB set between 166 and 199MHz.
Correct FSB frequencies of a few Willamette CPUs.
Fix EZFlash failure if ATI 9700 Pro or 3DLabs Wildcat II 5110 are used.
Fix the system fails to boot from floppy drive A: after the first boot failure if an IDE CDROM drive is attached.
Support CPU VCORE adjustment up to 1.95V.
Update the boot ROM of onboard LAN controller.
Fix failure to initialize VGA after BIOS upgrade or the system is put in Mechanical Off state for 1 minute.
Support new CPU.
Improve Instant Music compatibility with different optical drives and keyboards.
Change onboard VIA RAID boot ROM to 6410v112.rom.
Fix "CPU Fan Failure" alarm if Intel boxed CPU fan is used.

-v1007:
Add "Performance Mode" in BIOS setup menu.

-v1008:
Do not use Aflash.exe / EZflash /Afudos.exe to update BIOSV1008
Extract all the files into the floppy disk,and simply run P4P1008.exe under DOS mode,the BIOS update will execute automatically.Please refer to the readme file included in the zipped file for the details of BIOS update procedure.
Fix memory test failure with Memtest-86 v3.0.
Remove the redundant blank line in the popup window of "Restore on AC Power Loss" setup item.
Fix the system takes long time to boot if IDE CD-ROM drive is loaded with non-bootable CDR disc.
Support system powering up by pressing "Space Bar", "Ctrl-Esc" and "Power Key" of PS/2 keyboard.
Fix DMI data structure in F-Segment is destroyed if the length of System Manufacturer string exceeds 23 characters.
Fix "RTC Alarm Date" setup item is hidden if "Every Day" is selected.
Support Intel OSB.
Fix the system cannot boot up if Intel SRCU31 PCI RAID card or ASUS PCI wireless LAN card is used.
Fix customized 256-color logo cannot be displayed with correct palette.
Fix the system locks up during POST if Elixir M2U25664DSH8B1G PC2700 or M2U25664DSH8B0G PC2100 DDR SDRAM module is used.

-v1009:
Do not use Aflash.exe to update BIOSPlease use EZflash or Afudos.exe.
Fix Maxtor 6Y120M0 YAR51BW0 Serial-ATA hard disk drive cant be detected.
Change DMI Base Board Information to "ASUSTeK Computer Inc.".
Revise DMI System Slots information for PCI slots.
Update Intel RAID boot ROM to v3.5.0.2568 to support RAID-1 mode(only with IAA v3.5 or later).

-v1010:
Do not use Aflash.exe to update BIOS. Please use EZflash or Afudos.exe.
Fix PS/2 keyboard and PS/2 mouse cannot wake up the system from Suspend-to-RAM(S3) and Hibernate(S4) states.
Add DMI OEM Strings.
Revise Description String of DMI.
Onboard Device Information for onboard LAN.
Fix the system cannot boot into Windows 2000 with 3DLabs Wildcat VP760 XGA card after its driver v3.01-0181 is installed.
Fix LPT port is disabled after flashing the BIOS using EZ Flash.
Fix the system locks up at POST (Code1) the first time the system is restarted after flashing the BIOS using EZ Flash if a FSB800 CPU is used.

-v1012:
Do not use Aflash.exe to update BIOSPlease use EZflash or Afusos.exe.
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusu...pusupport.aspx
Update MCH Memory Initialization Reference Code.

-v1014:
Do not use old version Afudos.exe to flash BIOS.Must use new Afudos.exe which is included in zip file to flash BIOS.
Using ASUSLiveUpdate to flash BIOS,you need to upgrade ASUSLiveupdate to v 5.22.02 or later before flash BIOS.
Please do not use Ezflash for updating this BIOS.
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusu...pusupport.aspx
Fix extended F8 boot menu cannot list all devices if more than one removable device are installed.
Mute beep sound for USB device plug-in/plug-out.
Revise extended memory size.
Revise Ultra DMA Mode max limit.
Revise dual/single channel in the post screen when set Standard/Turbo in the performance mode.
Modify the setting of VIA VT6410 and cange boot ROM to rev. 2.11.

-v1015:
Do not use old version Afudos.exe to flash BIOS. Must use new Afudos.exe which is included in zip file to flash BIOS.
Using ASUSLiveUpdate to flash BIOS,you need to upgrade ASUSLiveupdate to v 5.22.02 or later before flash BIOS.
Please do not use Ezflash for updating this BIOS unless the loaded BIOS is of version 1014.
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusu...pusupport.aspx
Fix boot devices failed to be disabled when more than one device are in the same group.
Revise USB module.

-v1016:
Fix Logitech USB QuickCam cannot work under Windows 98.
Update Intel RAID BIOS to V3.5.0.3003.

-v1017:
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusu...pusupport.aspx
Re-arrange memory resource when a total of 4GB memory is installed.
Fix boot order sequence will be changed with certain conditions.
Add beeping alert when powering up without memory.

-v1018:
Do not use old version Afudos.exe to flash BIOS. Must use new Afudos.exe which is included in zip file to flash BIOS.
Using ASUSLiveUpdate to flash BIOS,you need to upgrade ASUSLiveupdate to v 5.22.02 or later before flash BIOS.
Please do not use Ezflash for updating this BIOS unless the pre-loaded BIOS is of version 1014 or 1015.
Release bios to version 1018

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Questions and answers:
Q:I am having problems with Corsair (and other brands) memory and memtestx86 even when i am not overclocking. Why ?
A:Try to disable "LEGACY USB SUPPORT" in the Bios (that will not let you use your USB mouse or keyboard under MSDOS, for example).
A:Try to flash your bios with 1008 Final version (former 1008 Beta 4 bios). Please use the correct method to flash the bios (check under the known bios version), or it might get unespected results (bios update faild, boot block errors, etc).

Q:I have problems with my PATA HDD. I get too low scores. How can i solve this ?
A:Enable in BIOS (if your HDD supports it) 32bit Data Transfer. Disable SMART (this will stop the chipset to autodetect if HDD fails). Set ICH Delay Transaction on DISABLED (this one seems to result in some ppl benchmarks in increase from 28000 to over 35000 in Sandra HDD Benchmark.
A:Try experimenting on the main page of the BIOS under IDE configuration with the PATA/SATA/PATA+SATA option. For some reason, setting this to SATA allowed me to obtain the scores I expected. I have also seen where setting to PATA solved the problem for someone else.

Q:Short time after i start playing, everything starts to slow down... Why ?
A:The Intel CPU or the function present in BIOS (thermal throttle) starts to slow down because of high temperature. Don't just check with MBM or PCProbe ! Open the case and check the Northbridge and the CPU Radiator. Sometimes the software seems to be erratic (ppl are complaining the same CPU used on different boards on P4P8533 are now 10-15*C lower). So, check again if you removed the thermal pad from retail Intel cooler and replaced with good thermal paste, like Arctic Silver III)

Q:I've just installed P4P800 with a P4 with HTT suport, enabled HTT in bios, but i still don't have the dual procesor. Why ?
A:First, if you use Win9x/ME you will never have dual cpu. Those OS'es don't support dual cpu's. Only Win2k,XP and *NIX OS'es support dual cpu's. And if you have XP Profesional and still don't have ACPI MULTIPROCESOR PC in System Properties, then do a Install Repair or Fresh Install of XP, as this OS uses a different kernel for Single/Dual CPU. So, you need to reinstall ! And be sure in BIOS Hyperthreading is ENABLED.

Q:How do i know i have PAT enabled ?
A:Go and download CPUID 1.8c or CTIAW using the links from UTILITIES (start of the thread). In CPUID you can see it in MEMORY TAB. If PERFORMANCE MODE is ENABLED than you have PAT enabled. The same, in CTIAW, although it's a MSDOS based program, there is a PAT-mode where should be (7) partially enabled, or fully enabled. If it's fully enabled, than you have PAT enabled.

Q:Heeey, my 2*512 memory is rated to run DDR400 CAS2-2-5. Why isn't this working on P4P800 Deluxe even if i don't overclock ?
A:For now, P4P800 Deluxe Bios is a little picky with the memory you're using. Try to disable TURBO (as it's setting your RAM to go for the tightest latencies). Set the latencies for your RAM from SPD to MANUAL like 2.5-3-3-7. If this doesn't work, increase the Vdimm to 2.75 (even Corsair recommends it). If this doesn't work either, just go for 320Mhz mode (5:4). This should work...

Q:The PC can't boot. Isn't possible to reset the BIOS without opening the case and shorting the CMOS pins ?
A:Press INS together with the power button and the CMOS will be magically reset without open the case and short the pins.

Q:I get sometimes a message (specially when my overclock fails): "CMOS CHECKSUM ERROR: ENTER FLOPPY ... ENTER CD. . .ENTER FLOPPY..."
A:It's Asus Protection that's kickin' in. Do not go fast and put a floppy or a cd with the bios to flash... just reset and enter bios (and change your settings). If not possible, do the INSERT trick (hold down INSERT while pushing the power off - power on button).

Q:I can't overclock at all. I have dual 400Mhz memory and a great overclockable CPU. Is it something wrong with P4P800 Deluxe ?
A:For the moment, the bios is "under construction" so i'dd recommend you do the following: Disable Turbo. Set the memory timings on manual (start with 2.5-4-4-8 and lower one step at a time). Increase the RAM voltage at 2.75. Increase CPU voltage one step at a time. Flash 1008 bios using the method Asus recommends. Remove some HDD's or cards that use too much voltage, so that the power source can't be the one who's causing problem. Lock the PCI/AGP to 33/66Mhz. Disable USB Legagy Support. If none of these works then you have something defective !

Q:I've just upgraded my motherboard to P4P800D. I have a HTT enabled CPU, but i don't see it in XP. Do i need to reinstall ?
A:Acording to this Microsoft article http://support.microsoft.com/default...n-us%3b810231, there is no need to reinstall WinXP. Just enable it under bios, go for Search for New Hardware, restart... and you should have Multiprocesor now. Enjoy !

Q:How can i enable PAT over 200Mhz (400Mhz real) ?!?
A:Go and read BIGTOE great thread, and see how it is possible (until Asus will release a bios with MAM/PAT able to be enabled over 200Mhz): http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showth...threadid=49645 . Also BIGTOE got another way to enable PAT, but this one will avoid your warranty. Just check it in here: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showth...threadid=51548

Q:Where can i find a better thread ? Where can i get a different aproach of P4P800 ?!?
A:Thugsrook has a great thread in here: http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/sho...=&threadid=153 . He's always there when you need him... so go ask him (as i know, he's using a P4P800, not the Deluxe version).

Q:What is all this fuzz about HTT, MAM/PAT? They only make a small increase in benchmark... so why ppl are so disperate to have them ?
A:Trust me. Add 2-5% performance with MAM/PAT enabled, Add 5-15% performance with HTT (more for specially designed apps), go on dual DDR 400 (i believe is over 6200MB/s) put some overclock in there (with MAM/PAT enabled) and you'll have the ultimate power sistem these days !!! So it's worth every cent...

Q:My video card is not working with P4P800 Deluxe. Why ?
A:Either it's broken (check it on another PC), or it's an older video card. Remmeber AGP 3.0 version only support 1.5V video cards by now, so if you have an older video card (with 3.3V), it will simply not work. Also, as stated in the manual (article 2.6.4) use only Ati Radeon 9700 and 9500 version PN xxx-xxxxx-30 or later for optimal performance (although Asus would mean by that - "not having problems").

Q:I have 3com ethernet dropping off line after a while. How can i solve it ?
A:The solution is to remove the 3com software (that comes on the Asus CD).

Q:I tried to overclock a little higher, and my sistem is not booting. It gives me erratic bootup, and CPR is not kicking in. I've used CMOS CLEAR jumpers and still not working. My PC is freezing while showing some strange bios text. What shall i do ?
A:First, remove the power cables. Then, remove the CMOS batery, set the CLEAR CMOS jumpers on position 2-3... wait 10-20 seconds. Insert the batery back. Power on the system (even if it will not boot, just push the power button). Then you should set the jumpers back to 1-2 position, power on, and the system should start with default settings.

Q:How do you flash your bios'es MonkY ?
A:I am using 2 methods, one as stated at the bios version (Asus method for special block updates) and one as i like it. Here it is:
My method is as always for beta bioses (when there is no need for strange flash methods reccomended from Asus):
1.Be sure you download it without errors. Use a download program for this, like Reget Deluxe, Flasghet or a good ftp browser like FlashFXP or Bulletproof
2.Check for viruses
3.Enter BIOS, set everything on DEFAULT, no overclock
4.Unpack the .zip file in c:\Bios
5.Copy the right afudos.exe (v1.16b2) in c:\Bios
6.Create a flash.bat file in c:\Bios that contains this line afudos /i1009.004 /pbn (where 1009.004 is the name of the file you just extracted from .zip)
7.Reboot in MSDOS Safe Mode (or just use a Win98/Win85 bootdisk)
8.Run c:\Flash.bat. Pray !
9.Reboot, check the bios, settings, etc... and go for it
A:For those who are using NTFS, it's a little bit more complicated but try to use one of the following methods:
1.Use Powerquest Partition Magic or other partition manager and create a small FAT32 partition where do the Answer1 steps.
2.Create a Win98SE bootdisk (or goto www.bootdisk.com and download one) and do the same steps at Answer1 but use the floppy (please check twice the floppy disk is ok)... or use the same method with a CDR or CDRW (if your sistem support bootable CD's) using Win98SE bootdisk...
For BIGTOE methods of flashing, just go in here: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showth...threadid=51592

Q:Can someone explain me what means all those AMI BIOS flash switches means ?
A:The manual method of flashing involve afudos.exe. The command should be like this: afudos /ixxxxx.xxx /pbn /n where:
/ixxxxx.xxx - use filename xxxxx.xxx to flash
/n - don't check ROM ID
/pbnc where:
b - program boot block
n - program NVRAM
c - destroy system CMOS

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Dividers explained:
As you might probably noticed, P4P800 Deluxe doesn't use Asus Award Medallion but uses AMI Bios, and the ratios aren't dinamically changing, as we used to. When you'll manually overclock, there will be the following ratios: 266, 320, 400
266 (3:2) = 1.5
320 (5:4) = 1.25
400 (1:1) = 1
Now, when you want to find out what's your actual RAM speed, just do this simple math: PSB (FSB) / 1.25 (or 1.5 or 1) = your actual RAM speed.
For example PSB set at 225Mhz, with 320 divider means you have your memory at 225/1.25=180Mhz * 2 (DDR) = 360 Mhz. Dual DDR means your memory should actually be at 360 * 2 = 720, close to what a 800Mhz CPU will need.

Results i got:
> Configuration used: P4 2.8C - 2*Corsair XMS3500 C2 - Bios 1008 Final - GF4Ti4600 default core/mem driver 44.03/XP

> 3DMARK 2001:
3.21Ghz - 188/376 : 2.0-2-2-5-4 = 13503
3.15Ghz - 225/450 : 2.5-3-3-7-8 = 13774

> Sandra Memory Benchmark:
3.21Ghz - 188/376 : 2.0-2-2-5-4 = 5088/5101
3.15Ghz - 225/450 : 2.5-3-3-7-8 = 5190/5247

> PCMark 2002:
3.21Ghz - 188/376 : 2.0-2-2-5-4 = CPU:7675 - MEM:9454 - HDD:1021
3.15Ghz - 225/450 : 2.5-3-3-7-8 = CPU:7898 - MEM:9129 - HDD:1006

How to find what week your CPU is:
As it's a well known fact there are different P4's, and some of them are kings of overclocking, i recommend you look over your P4 BOX (sorry, only for retail versions this time) and check for the followings: FPO/BATCH # : 3211A409. The first letter/number is where it was made. the second # is the last digit of the year it was produced. the 3rd and forth #'s are the week that it was made. The rest of the numbers are some sort of identification stuff (thx goes to hc1001). Check the CPU Database from www.overclockers.com to see how the same week CPU's overclock...

PSU Math: find out how much power your sistem needs
Many ppl in here are asking me what power source do i recommend for their fully loaded, overclocked systems, so they wouldn't be worried about reboots, not enough power for different devices, random crashes, etc. Well, a direct and frank answer would be: the best and bigger psu you can get. But, beside that, i will try to do a little math on the peak power consumption in today sistems (overclocked and fully loaded). Please keep in mind all the ratings are used at their maximum usage (you'll never have a situation where you're using all 4 IDE drives, all CDROM's and floppy, while playing in UT2003) but i've used this situation so that the rating of wattage used be a little oversized (it's well known because of AC conversion a power source will lose around 10% of it's rated power...) so it's better to be safe than sorry. Now, beside the real power of the PSU, there are some other things to look for: First, the quality of the power source (this can be done by looking at www reviews) ; second, check the values on all the voltage lines (+3.3V , +12V , -5V and -12V). The bigger amperage it supports, the better that is. Now, let's go for the real thing:
90W - CPU: CPU 3Ghz P4C Northwood 800Mhz, overclocked 1.65V
20W - MBU: MOTHERBOARD P4P800 Deluxe with all onboard devices disabled (will add Audigy and PCI card which use more power)
64W - RAM: RAM 1024Mb DDR3500 (2*512) 8W for each 128MB
96W - HDD: IDE Hard Drives 4*120Gb Maxtor 7200 RPM, 8Mb Cache, ATA133 (24wats for each one while spinning up)
80W - GPU: Video card Geforce 4Ti4600 128Mb AGP4x at maximum power (anyway AGP maximum rated power is at 99W)
15W - SPU: Sound card Audigy 2
25W - CDR: CDRW Teac writing at 40x
28W - DVD: DVD Pioneer wrinting DVD at 4x
05W - FDD: Fdd 3.5"
09W - NET: RTL8139D (5W for PCI + 4W usage of NIC)
06W - COL: CPU Cooling - Zalman CNPS7000Cu
30W - CL2: Aditional 4*80mm PAPST cooling (5W each)
12W - USB: Webcam Philps Pro

TOTAL USAGE : 480W

So, in big words, a REAL 550W will solve a problem for a sistem like this. I am using now 2*300W with no problems. But take care, you can get a 600W power source (after all, anyone can print a 600W sticker ) but if your +5V or +12V goes too low, you'll be in problem for sure. Using MBM and PCPROBE you can verify very easy how's the situation in there for your PSU. Mine are now:
MBM:
+3.3V = 3.26V
+5V = 5.11V
+12V = 12.34
PCPROBE:
+3.3V = 3.264V
+5V = 5.107V
+12V = 12.281
In final words... be sure you don't get a no-name psu (go for Antec, Thermaltake, specially go for True Power designed psu's), be sure you get one with nice cooling (best to have 2 way cooling)... and make a small math like the upper one to see what you really need (then add at least 10-15%, even if you compute everything at max... you'll never know when you go for an upgrade). I hope this helps. I've used most of the wattage using from the manufacturers technical spec files... so if anything in there is wrong, please let me know. Thx

Price:
169 USD in Romania (Depozitul de calculatoare)
103 USD at I Sqared Inc.
173 USD at Krex Direct

Known revisions:
rev 1.0 - The Review versions, that was made for reviewers, and actually had the northbridge radiator setup in the position as showd in the above picture. It seems to be an overclocked version by default, so that higher scores be shown.
rev 1.02 - The one i got, with paralel northbridge radiator position to the CPU.

Before getting this motherboard:
Be sure you'll get 2 modules of identical DDR memory and check on oficial link on the top of the thread if your memory is in Asus compatibility list. Unoficially, higher rated memory than those in Asus list will be supported.
Be sure you have a powerfull PSU to keep up your new system. These days a 420W power source must be a start. For overclockers, i would recommend as powerfull as it can be.
If you have more than 4 USB devices, be sure you'll go to the nearest store and get 2*2 USB brackets, as even the Deluxe package doesn't include the aditional 4 USB (8 USB's in total) connectors.
Be sure you have a 1.5V AGP Video card, or not one of the Ati 9500/9700 Radeon cards revision that are not supported (see it in Q&A for more details).
If going to overclock as high as possible, be sure you'll be "armed" with a new chipset fan/heatsink, as the one P4P800 Deluxe gets really hot at FSB's over 250Mhz. At least unmount the original heatsink and add some nice thermal paste, like Arctic Silver.

P4P800 Deluxe Pics - Bios & Board



That's the cooler i recommend: Zalman CNPS7000 Cu:

Post Scriptum:
I will try to make an improved guide for P4P800 Deluxe users, as i see there are so many threads, with so many problems, and sometimes is so hard to get the right answer.
I will try to make it the same way i did my last guide. You can check it here, and let me know in what way i could improve it: Asus P4B533-V Guide:
http://www.asusboards.com/forums/sho...threadid=29291

Now, as i've stated many times before, i will not try to create a system with the highest overclock rate, but the most stable one. Maybe my guide will help you or maybe not. If i'm doing something wrong, just let me know... to make mistakes it's human... so... I need this PC to be stable 24/7 with no reboots, lockups. This doesn't mean i will not overclock ! Why would i buy a motherboard so well known about as beeing a good overclocker if i wouldn't go there ? But don't expect me to show you the highest scores... Just show me yours ! And good luck with this mobo ! I will wait for your comments and help... and please excuse my bad english...
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Yes Monky I would like to see your guide. I would like to know precise conservative overclocking instructions, including memory settings for pc3200 ddr sdram, ht, pat, mam etc.
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Yes Monkey I would like to see your guide. I would like to know precise conservative overclocking instructions, including memory settings for pc3200 ddr sdram, ht, pat, mam etc.
I'll try to do my best, although i just got this nice mobo. I would apreciate your help in this... your scores... how high did you overclocked... etc... Thx in advance.

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monky...

This is good.... great job.
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Could everyone tell me what revision of the board you have, and what's the difference, so that i could add them to the guide ?
Also, let me know what settings work the best for you, what memory do u have... what setups... and what problems did you encountered... maybe we can solve them together. Thanks in advance...
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Ethernet Problems

I just installed a P4P800, and I'm having problems with my ethernet connection on the motherboard. I installed the drivers, but I keep getting the disconnected message in Windows XP. My router shows a connection on the port, but my PC does not think it's working.

Anyone have an idea? Are there newer drivers out there? Should I even bother with the drivers on the ASUS CD?
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Old 07-07-2003, 01:57 PM   #9
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Nice post chaps.

One question duh I didn't realise that p4p800 doesnt have a joystick port, am I right in saying you can buy them, as I have no way of using my M$ FF stick/wheel.
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Nice post chaps.

One question duh I didn't realise that p4p800 doesnt have a joystick port, am I right in saying you can buy them, as I have no way of using my M$ FF stick/wheel.
If you don't wanna go with another sound card, you only need to buy a joystic cable, and atach it to the mobo. Or get one from your old soundcard... Asus decided to remove some of the extras from the pack in the favor of low price (for example, this mobo has 8 USB's, but only 4 available - because there are no cables)... But these days, every PC Shop has extra cables... so it will be easy for you.
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Re: Ethernet Problems

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I just installed a P4P800, and I'm having problems with my ethernet connection on the motherboard. I installed the drivers, but I keep getting the disconnected message in Windows XP. My router shows a connection on the port, but my PC does not think it's working.

Anyone have an idea? Are there newer drivers out there? Should I even bother with the drivers on the ASUS CD?
I have the same problem. Using the latest BIOS 1008. Please help. The network drops out after less than 20 minutes, and the only solution is a reboot...
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Re: Re: Ethernet Problems

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I have the same problem. Using the latest BIOS 1008. Please help. The network drops out after less than 20 minutes, and the only solution is a reboot...
What driver are you using ? Have you tried using the latest drivers (see the first post of this thread for links) ? Have you tried removing some of your devices, to be sure there is enough power for the giga netcard ? Are you overclocking ? If yes, have you tried locking up the PCI/AGP to 33/66Mhz ? If none of these works for you, then do a clean reinstall... If that doesn't help neither... RMA the board (but i don't think it's necesary ) Good Luck !
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What driver are you using ? Have you tried using the latest drivers (see the first post of this thread for links) ? Have you tried removing some of your devices, to be sure there is enough power for the giga netcard ? Are you overclocking ? If yes, have you tried locking up the PCI/AGP to 33/66Mhz ? If none of these works for you, then do a clean reinstall... If that doesn't help neither... RMA the board (but i don't think it's necesary ) Good Luck !
hey, no I'm not overclocking. not until I get my second stick of TwinMOS PC3200 Cas2 512MB RAM. Currently, I'm only having one stick off that kind, the other is a twinmos PC2100 cas 2.5 512MB stick that emigrated from my other computer...

I know, it slows the performance very much.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Ethernet Problems

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hey, no I'm not overclocking. not until I get my second stick of TwinMOS PC3200 Cas2 512MB RAM. Currently, I'm only having one stick off that kind, the other is a twinmos PC2100 cas 2.5 512MB stick that emigrated from my other computer...

I know, it slows the performance very much.
You still didn't answered all my questions... but even what you got in there, are u sure it's 100% stable under Prime and Memtestx86 ? I am sure you don't... as different sticks in P4P800 is a no go situation... I got problems even when using the same sticks XMS3200 C2, but different versions (v1.1 and v2.2). They've made my sistem not even boot at default settings... So, consider yourself luck you go into Windows. Try using only one module... and give answers about the rest of the questions... That will help us much ... so we can help you.
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Old 07-07-2003, 03:48 PM   #15
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Greetings

Thank you Monky for this comprehensive p4p800dx resource.

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Q:I have problems with my PATA HDD. I get too low scores. How can i solve this ?
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A:Enable in BIOS (if your HDD supports it) 32bit Data Transfer. Disable SMART (this will stop the chipset to autodetect if HDD fails). Set ICH Delay Transaction on DISABLED (this one seems to result in some ppl benchmarks in increase from 28000 to over 35000 in Sandra HDD Benchmark.
If I may add to this based on my own experience with lows from my PATA Maxtor 60GB HDD:

Try experimenting on the main page of the BIOS under IDE configuration with the PATA/SATA/PATA+SATA option. For some reason, setting this to SATA allowed me to obtain the scores I expected. I have also seen where setting to PATA solved the problem for someone else.

Again, good thread.
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