Conroe vs. FX-62

Kage · 06-05-2006, 10:07 AM

Intel's Conroe Takes On The AMD Athlon 64 FX-62: First Official Benchmarks

The battle between AMD and Intel is heating up. While AMD still has the performance lead with its Athlon 64 FX-60 and FX-62 processors, and also offers better performance per watt, Intel is determined to reclaim the processor market with its upcoming Core micro architecture. The countdown has begun, and we are only a month away from the Core 2 Duo launch. This processor will replace the complete Pentium 4 and Pentium D family, targeting the Athlon 64 family in the desktop space.

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Kage · 06-05-2006, 10:16 AM

Well...A 2.66GHz conroe is about equal with an FX-62 in gaming applications. But, in things like media encoding, Conroe is the undisputed champ!

Jeeka_abx · 06-05-2006, 11:40 AM

It will "demolish" that AMD chip, which I am assuming is almost pushed to it's clock limits (the FX-62)? Even a slight bump should put the Conroe over the top in all benches, at least that is my logic.

But not everyone is an OC type, so I understand that might not be for everybody.

So cool to see all this new stuff leap frogging the competition on both sides, only brings prices down for us and performance up!

I will probably spring for the 2nd stepping of the Conroe, if that ever happens...

fun! fun! fun!

BKA · 06-05-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Qxp

Well...A 2.66GHz conroe is about equal with an FX-62 in gaming applications. But, in things like media encoding, Conroe is the undisputed champ!

Kinda looks that way by the results. Conroe smoked the FX-62 in the PCMark05 CPU and Memory results. Can't wait to see what the results will be when it finally gets to us normal people or one that isn't setup by Intel.

Kage · 06-05-2006, 01:12 PM

If anything, the performance (for conroe) will probably be better when it reaches the public.

I can't wait for RevG Athlons to come. It will be interesting to see what AMD will do to bridge the gap between K8 and K8L....Hopefully they will be able to equal Intel in terms of performance. It might even force some price cuts.

**Sandog** · 06-05-2006, 01:26 PM

Besides the new BIOS's and drivers for the rev304 D975 and new 965P chipset which will boost performance, I believe Intel is holding back the clocks a bit. Probably due to meeting a TDP of 65W. Conroe appears to be a fast, cool, inexpensive, and underclocked.

SpeedDMN · 06-05-2006, 01:31 PM

No way that is going to be anywhere near Conroes fastest chip where as that is AMD's fastest. These bench marks are actually closer then the synthetic tests I read about before but still almost a run away considereing Intel will probably put out something like the Core Extreme or something at much higher clocks. Does anyone know if Intel raised the instructions per clock with the new chip? Just wondering because 2.6 is pretty low for Intel not to mention the performance.

Kage · 06-05-2006, 01:35 PM

No, that wasn't the fastest Conroe. It was a 2.66GHz model. There will also be a Core 2 EE down the line. Intel probably thought that showing the performance of a chip that most people could afford would have the greatest effect.

That model costs about $300 US? An FX-62 is what, $900 US? ....

SpeedDMN · 06-05-2006, 01:52 PM

Actually the FX/62 will be more like $1200 US if the last 2 are any indication of price. I paid $1050 for my FX/57 around last Christmas. Hard to believe that AMD allowed Intel to get away from them like that. Unless there is something I don't know about that AMD has up their sleeve they sound like they are in some serious trouble. Who in their right mind would pay even $900 when you can get a faster chip for $300? Going to be interesting to see how this all comes out in the wash.

**k0NG0** · 06-05-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bka4u2c

Kinda looks that way by the results. Conroe smoked the FX-62 in the PCMark05 CPU and Memory results. Can't wait to see what the results will be when it finally gets to us normal people or one that isn't setup by Intel.

Hexus ran benchmarks using rigs they set up in their own lab environment.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5692

Engineering samples. Still packs quite a punch.

Water_abx · 06-05-2006, 02:29 PM

Definitely not looking good for AMD. A $300 processor beating AMD's considerably more expensive flagship processor is pretty hilarious. Is AMD even designing a new architecture (besides the K8L, which technically isn't a new architecture) to compete?

I can only imagine how the Extreme Edition Conroe will perform. Sure, it will cost $1000, but if the performance advantage is a huge step above anything AMD offers, it may be worth the price tag.

billfuddled · 06-05-2006, 02:44 PM

I too am excited about the offerings from Intel and impending (hopefully) battle for processor dominance. It doen't seem like it was very many months/years ago that the criticism and incredulity was being directed at Intel. Everyone wondered how long and how far AMD could go before stirring the sleeping giant. It seems Intel is more than stirred at this point, awake and about to roll over on top of AMD. I hope AMD has a plan.

The next 6-12 months are going to be very interesting in the processor world. My interest has been piqued like it hasn't been in years.

Kage · 06-05-2006, 03:06 PM

AMD has a few new revisions of K8 planned. Each will have a series of small improvements that build off of each other...It should significantly impact the overall performance. But, still just a band-aid for the wound Conroe will gouge.

I will be building a new system in Q2 of 2007, after the dust of the initial fight will have settled a bit.

*johnrr6* · 06-05-2006, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qxp

But, still just a band-aid for the wound Conroe will gouge.

I will be building a new system in Q2 of 2007, after the dust of the initial fight will have settled a bit.

Exactly and I'm planning the same.....

It's not performance that will have folks moving in droves to Intel......

I'm fairly certain that a decently overclocked FX-62 WILL be competitive.....

It's PRICE per PERFORMANCE that will blow everyone away......

lemme see now.... I can spend a thousand dollars and go buy me an AMD chip that is almost as good as a $300 chip from Intel.....

No brainer-----folks will vote with their feet (or pocketbooks)

I have been certain for months that AMD has been absolutely gouging on it's high grade chips. I almost choked when I paid $1030 for my 4800+ X2 when they first came out-----and it is a SUPERB chip----but $1000----no way....

AMD will have to lower their prices drastically----which will be wonderful for enthusiasts......

I haven't been this excited since the heady days of 875 boards and brand new 800 FSB Northwoods....

Intel was the king back then-----at least for a while.....

AMD competed by producing VERY inexpensive chips that were great overclockers and were almost as fast as the much more expensive Intel versions.....

I'll never forget my 2500+ Barton that I bought for $65----made a couple of BIOS settings changes and Viola!-----it performed as well as a $300 chip-----and almost as good as the latest Northwood!-----the absolute easiest and fastest overclock I've ever done!!!

Good days are on the horizon------I'm excited!!!

my260bullfrogs · 06-05-2006, 05:48 PM

is there going to be sli or CrossFire on this chip ?

06-05-2006, 10:07 AM	#1
Kage Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fiery depths of Hell Posts: 3,620	Conroe vs. FX-62 Intel's Conroe Takes On The AMD Athlon 64 FX-62: First Official Benchmarks The battle between AMD and Intel is heating up. While AMD still has the performance lead with its Athlon 64 FX-60 and FX-62 processors, and also offers better performance per watt, Intel is determined to reclaim the processor market with its upcoming Core micro architecture. The countdown has begun, and we are only a month away from the Core 2 Duo launch. This processor will replace the complete Pentium 4 and Pentium D family, targeting the Athlon 64 family in the desktop space. Article __________________ On the 22nd of June - Jonathan Fiddle - went out of tune.
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Kage Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fiery depths of Hell Posts: 3,620	Well...A 2.66GHz conroe is about equal with an FX-62 in gaming applications. But, in things like media encoding, Conroe is the undisputed champ! __________________ On the 22nd of June - Jonathan Fiddle - went out of tune.
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06-05-2006, 11:40 AM	#3
Jeeka_abx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 417	Yes but once you OC the Conroe.... It will "demolish" that AMD chip, which I am assuming is almost pushed to it's clock limits (the FX-62)? Even a slight bump should put the Conroe over the top in all benches, at least that is my logic. But not everyone is an OC type, so I understand that might not be for everybody. So cool to see all this new stuff leap frogging the competition on both sides, only brings prices down for us and performance up! I will probably spring for the 2nd stepping of the Conroe, if that ever happens... fun! fun! fun! __________________ MB: Asus P5W DH BIOS 1901 CPU: e6600 2.4Ghz B2 @ 3.60Ghz (9x400) - 1.60v vCore Bios, ~1.57v in Probe RAM: (2GB) TWIN2X2048-6400C4 (4-4-4-12) Vid Card: XFX GeForce 7900GS Oc'd like crazy Heatsinks: ThermalRight Ultra 120 w/120mm fan blowing - Swiftech MCX159-P on the Southbridge (yes, it fits!) Otical Drives: 2 NEC DVD Burners that aren't important Drives: 320GB SATAII Seagate Barracude 7200.10 - 200GB SATA Seagate Barracuda - 2x160GB IDE WD1600JB - 120GB IDE WD1200JB - 80GB WD800JB Case: Antec p160 PSU: Antec TruePower Trio 650w Fans: 3x120mm, 1x92mm fan
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06-05-2006, 01:12 PM	#5
Kage Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fiery depths of Hell Posts: 3,620	If anything, the performance (for conroe) will probably be better when it reaches the public. I can't wait for RevG Athlons to come. It will be interesting to see what AMD will do to bridge the gap between K8 and K8L....Hopefully they will be able to equal Intel in terms of performance. It might even force some price cuts. __________________ On the 22nd of June - Jonathan Fiddle - went out of tune.
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SpeedDMN Silicon Avatar Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 3,515	No way that is going to be anywhere near Conroes fastest chip where as that is AMD's fastest. These bench marks are actually closer then the synthetic tests I read about before but still almost a run away considereing Intel will probably put out something like the Core Extreme or something at much higher clocks. Does anyone know if Intel raised the instructions per clock with the new chip? Just wondering because 2.6 is pretty low for Intel not to mention the performance. __________________ Core i7 2600k (Sandybridge) @ 5.0g/ Corsair H-100 liquid CPU cooling / Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Radeon HD R6850 MSI Cyclone X2 Xfire stock / Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / Realtec onboard sound Corsair Vengeance 4 x 2g DDR3 @ 1600MHz / Corsair TX850 PSU / LG bluray player + burner/ OCZ Vertex 3 SSD 120g (system) + 450g WD velociraptor, Seagate 1.5t (storage)
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Kage Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fiery depths of Hell Posts: 3,620	No, that wasn't the fastest Conroe. It was a 2.66GHz model. There will also be a Core 2 EE down the line. Intel probably thought that showing the performance of a chip that most people could afford would have the greatest effect. That model costs about $300 US? An FX-62 is what, $900 US? .... __________________ On the 22nd of June - Jonathan Fiddle - went out of tune.
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06-05-2006, 01:52 PM	#9
SpeedDMN Silicon Avatar Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 3,515	Actually the FX/62 will be more like $1200 US if the last 2 are any indication of price. I paid $1050 for my FX/57 around last Christmas. Hard to believe that AMD allowed Intel to get away from them like that. Unless there is something I don't know about that AMD has up their sleeve they sound like they are in some serious trouble. Who in their right mind would pay even $900 when you can get a faster chip for $300? Going to be interesting to see how this all comes out in the wash. __________________ Core i7 2600k (Sandybridge) @ 5.0g/ Corsair H-100 liquid CPU cooling / Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Radeon HD R6850 MSI Cyclone X2 Xfire stock / Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / Realtec onboard sound Corsair Vengeance 4 x 2g DDR3 @ 1600MHz / Corsair TX850 PSU / LG bluray player + burner/ OCZ Vertex 3 SSD 120g (system) + 450g WD velociraptor, Seagate 1.5t (storage)
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Water_abx Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 450	Definitely not looking good for AMD. A $300 processor beating AMD's considerably more expensive flagship processor is pretty hilarious. Is AMD even designing a new architecture (besides the K8L, which technically isn't a new architecture) to compete? I can only imagine how the Extreme Edition Conroe will perform. Sure, it will cost $1000, but if the performance advantage is a huge step above anything AMD offers, it may be worth the price tag.
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billfuddled Please stand by... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 584	I too am excited about the offerings from Intel and impending (hopefully) battle for processor dominance. It doen't seem like it was very many months/years ago that the criticism and incredulity was being directed at Intel. Everyone wondered how long and how far AMD could go before stirring the sleeping giant. It seems Intel is more than stirred at this point, awake and about to roll over on top of AMD. I hope AMD has a plan. The next 6-12 months are going to be very interesting in the processor world. My interest has been piqued like it hasn't been in years.
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Kage Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fiery depths of Hell Posts: 3,620	AMD has a few new revisions of K8 planned. Each will have a series of small improvements that build off of each other...It should significantly impact the overall performance. But, still just a band-aid for the wound Conroe will gouge. I will be building a new system in Q2 of 2007, after the dust of the initial fight will have settled a bit. __________________ On the 22nd of June - Jonathan Fiddle - went out of tune.
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