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Old 02-20-2014, 08:44 AM   #1
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Synology DS214 Nas Questions?

I've been looking at the Synolgy DS214 or the 213J two bay nas's with a pair of WD Red 2 TB hard drives, for my home network, this would be the finishing touches to my system, I have 2 gigabyte switches, 2 N Gigabyte routers and all cat 6 cabling, so I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with Synolgy equipment? From my research they seem to have the best software and are highly rated and the best part easy to setup and maintain. Being able to get to my stuff with mobile apps on our Ipads and Wireless Sonos speakers would be the main reason, but being able to setup backup's of our systems would be a plus!


Amazon.com: Synology DiskStation 2-Bay (Diskless) Network Attached Storage (NAS) DS214: Computers & Accessories Amazon.com: Synology DiskStation 2-Bay (Diskless) Network Attached Storage (NAS) DS214: Computers & Accessories



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Re: Synology DS214 Nas Questions?

Bump anyone have any experence with a Nas? any info would be great!
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Hey FVB, I thought this was a spam thread lol. You should be OK with a home type NAS storage. I would check reviews. I also thought there were products from WD/Seagate that were single unit drives you could attach to your router. Hope this works for you. Are you trying to have your storage independent from your PC? I though you had to use the PC to select/play the audio to the Sonos speakers and not just have separate storage alone.

NAS is suppose to work with switches. It is large capacity storage but has only 1/2 Ethernet jacks. It is designed to hook up to a network switch so many PC's can have controlled access to it, even at once but I don't see why it wouldn't work with a router. My ASUS router allows you do plug a printer into it and be seen wirelessly by all.
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Re: Synology DS214 Nas Questions?

I would think this would be all you need for home use.

http://www.cnet.com/network-storage/...-35828120.html
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Re: Synology DS214 Nas Questions?

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Hey FVB, I thought this was a spam thread lol. You should be OK with a home type NAS storage. I would check reviews. I also thought there were products from WD/Seagate that were single unit drives you could attach to your router. Hope this works for you. Are you trying to have your storage independent from your PC? I though you had to use the PC to select/play the audio to the Sonos speakers and not just have separate storage alone.

NAS is suppose to work with switches. It is large capacity storage but has only 1/2 Ethernet jacks. It is designed to hook up to a network switch so many PC's can have controlled access to it, even at once but I don't see why it wouldn't work with a router. My ASUS router allows you do plug a printer into it and be seen wirelessly by all.
The Nas will work with the Sonos has long has it supports SMB sharing, that's the main reason for the Nas, it will be on all the time and have my music library on it along with remote access to all my files while I'm on the boat...thanks for the link, I looked at those WD and Seagate ones but the Synology is higher rated and better software...I've been reading a lot..LOL
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I would think this would be all you need for home use.

http://www.cnet.com/network-storage/...-35828120.html
This is the one I'm looking at now....5 star rating and dual core (much faster transfers)

Amazon.com: Synology America DiskStation 1-Bay Diskless Network Attached Storage (DS114): Computers  Accessories Amazon.com: Synology America DiskStation 1-Bay Diskless Network Attached Storage (DS114): Computers Accessories
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Yeah get the Synology one. I like the hotswapable case and the WD drives are the best. The only diff I see is one is hotswapable but in any case (disregard pun ) you can always open it up because inside will be a regular hard disk that you can remove and replace. You might never need to replace the disk over its useful lifetime anyway. The hotswapability would be for you to remove a drive and take it to another machine to use/transfer files. I don't think the hotswapability is intended as a failsafe features in case a drive goes bad so if you think you have that need then get the hotswapable one. I have never hotswapped or removed a drive since SATA II came out and made that feature available.
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Yeah get the Synology one. I like the hotswapable case and the WD drives are the best. The only diff I see is one is hotswapable but in any case (disregard pun ) you can always open it up because inside will be a regular hard disk that you can remove and replace. You might never need to replace the disk over its useful lifetime anyway. The hotswapability would be for you to remove a drive and take it to another machine to use/transfer files. I don't think the hotswapability is intended as a failsafe features in case a drive goes bad so if you think you have that need then get the hotswapable one. I have never hotswapped or removed a drive since SATA II came out and made that feature available.
Thanks Sandog, i really don't need a Nas but its something new to learn, and its something good for backing up also!
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Thanks Sandog, i really don't need a Nas but its something new to learn, and its something good for backing up also!

I thought you had a pretty good reason myself. If you could get the whole music system off your PC that would be great. I don't know about the Sonos system but to me, almost everyroom has a TV. If you could use that as your media player screen that would work. In thinking deeper, if any device has an Ethernet jack (TV for example) you should get it connected to the internet somehow.
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I thought you had a pretty good reason myself. If you could get the whole music system off your PC that would be great. I don't know about the Sonos system but to me, almost everyroom has a TV. If you could use that as your media player screen that would work. In thinking deeper, if any device has an Ethernet jack (TV for example) you should get it connected to the internet somehow.
Sandog the Sonos system is really neat nothing but 4.5 to 5 stars on any of there products, they have a Bridge that is hooked into one of my gigabyte switches and its on its own wifi that connects any of there speakers, and there software lets you pick from your own library or any internet music service you like (the wife loves Pandora), with any of there speakers all you need is any 120 volt wall plug and you have music anywhere, and the sound quality of there speakers is Fantastic. You can play any song or channel on any speaker in the house, or play it on all the speakers in the house, if you have two speakers in one room (like we have in the kitchen)you can set them up has stereo and the separation its wonderful!
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Re: Synology DS214 Nas Questions?

FVB ... I like you was in the market for a NAS and looked at the entire Synology line as it is by far the best on the market. I came to the conclusion that what I would want (not necessarily need) the 713+ (I think the 714 may be out now) the other devices were pretty slow in comparison. As it turned out DAS (Direct Acquired Storage) was a better (and cheaper) solution for my needs I may still buy a NAS one day, but I will likely add an extra NIC to my MB or a gigabit switch that way I do not have to go through my internet router and it preserves privacy.
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Thanks Miles, really have a really good back up solution, and I really wouldn't be streaming video, mostly music and pictures and a few files that I could use when I'm out fishing, WD solution is really all i really need for that but the fact that it seems to be really slow and not very dependable is the reason for Synology DS114, the price is right and a 2 tb red drive would be more than enough room!

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Hey FVB maybe as another alternative try a new Router.

http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN65U/#overview

Somewhere in here is supports files, iCloud, and what not to stream media files. It also has 2xUSB 3.0 ports. You could connect a regular USB hard drive.
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Just ordered the Synology DS213J Nas and a WD RED 1 TB HD, another Gigabyte switch (out of ports on my others) and one more cat 6 cable, should be here Monday! I'll add another HD later...I had $200 in gift certificates from my birthday and they where burning a hole in my pocket...LOL

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Congrats FVB and good job shopping!
Thanks for introducing us to new worthwhile hardware. I might move in this direction someday and will use your experience and setup as a reference. I could see wanting to stream radio stations to certain areas of the house and I could see sharing my PC pictures/videos on the TV in the living room, that is all I can think of.

I know it sounds impossible but I feel there are a few worthy upgrades that can happen this year and I am going to call it quits on my desktop PC. It is truly maxed out with wireless, comfort, printing, speed, features, efficiency, audio, gaming, etc. It will be time to move on to other project areas if they are desired.

To finish out my PC I am waiting on:
Mionix comfy mouse
Higher quality, better wearing headphones
Maxwell for lower TDP end of the year
Haswell-K refresh end of the year

Let us know how you hooked your new cloud/media server system up and how it works later. Good luck!
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