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Old 07-24-2016, 10:05 PM   #31
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

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Yeah, I could see that dilema but I have already installed Windows 10 and I have a unique Win10 registration key, not my old Win7/8 key I used before.

So, what you can do is temporarily install Windows 10 using your old Win7/8 key and then talk to MS about getting a new key Win10 like I did. I had to talk to MS after my second and third install, my previous key would not work.
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I'm a firm believer in drive imaging. The last time I re-installed an OS from scratch was 15 years ago, as a result of a hard drive failure. I had a lot of software on that machine, and it took me something like 25 hours to reinstall everything and set it up properly. I said "never again" to myself at the time, and ever since I've made a habit of creating images of the c: drive on each of the computers in the house once a month or so (as well as data file backups just about daily). Which makes recovery from drive failure (following replacement of the hardware), viruses, software updates or installations of new software that mess up the system, etc., a matter of less than an hour on even my slowest machine. As well as avoiding issues related to activation keys, having to call Microsoft or vendors of other software as a result of activating too many times, etc.

I would recommend that anyone updating W7 or W8 to W10 create an image of both the old OS installation and the initial installation of the new one, and retain both images for the foreseeable future as well as periodically re-imaging the W10 installation from time to time. As I mentioned earlier I use Terabyte Unlimited's Image for Windows program for imaging, but other good choices are of course also available.

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Old 07-24-2016, 10:14 PM   #32
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

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Four clicks and a long scroll to get to my command prompt.
Just right-click the start button/icon, and you'll see a link to click for the command prompt, as well as for various other administrative functions.

Regarding the hosts file, I think you can simply create a desktop shortcut to:

C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

The first time you try to open it you will probably be asked what program it should be opened with, and you can specify notepad or whichever program you choose.

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Old 07-24-2016, 10:17 PM   #33
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

Yeah I wish I had an image of a fresh install. Currently, I am letting Windows handle my backups so if I forget it still does it. It does a system and user files backup and also a separate disk image backup. I manually backup my user account folder and my software archive to a local backup disk and from there to an external portable backup disk.
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Old 07-25-2016, 09:48 AM   #34
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

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Just right-click the start button/icon, and you'll see a link to click for the command prompt, as well as for various other administrative functions.

Regarding the hosts file, I think you can simply create a desktop shortcut to:

C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

The first time you try to open it you will probably be asked what program it should be opened with, and you can specify notepad or whichever program you choose.

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Exactly...its easier with W10...right click the windows icon and you have everything you need...best feature of W10 for me...plus W10 is optimized for your ssd too...
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:46 AM   #35
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

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As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I'm a firm believer in drive imaging. The last time I re-installed an OS from scratch was 15 years ago, as a result of a hard drive failure. I had a lot of software on that machine, and it took me something like 25 hours to reinstall everything and set it up properly. I said "never again" to myself at the time, and ever since I've made a habit of creating images of the c: drive on each of the computers in the house once a month or so (as well as data file backups just about daily). Which makes recovery from drive failure (following replacement of the hardware), viruses, software updates or installations of new software that mess up the system, etc., a matter of less than an hour on even my slowest machine. As well as avoiding issues related to activation keys, having to call Microsoft or vendors of other software as a result of activating too many times, etc.

I would recommend that anyone updating W7 or W8 to W10 create an image of both the old OS installation and the initial installation of the new one, and retain both images for the foreseeable future as well as periodically re-imaging the W10 installation from time to time. As I mentioned earlier I use Terabyte Unlimited's Image for Windows program for imaging, but other good choices are of course also available.

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Exactly what I do. But, I use Acronis True Image for the "C" partitions and MS SyncToy for the data folders.
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Old 07-25-2016, 09:50 PM   #36
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

Found another drag, heh. I use windows calculator daily, but since I work with big figures, I don't click the numbers, in case I make a mistake. Instead, I use the edit option on the calculator to transfer the figures from my spreadsheet to the calculator, that way there is no room for human error. To my horror, the windows 10 calculator is different and it has no edit option. I asked several people about it, but nobody seemed to know what I was talking about. My co-worker found a version of the old calculator, she downloaded it and sent it to me. Thankfully I can now use the edit again since I have the windows 7 calculator. I have NO idea why they would have want to remove that though?
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Old 07-27-2016, 09:52 PM   #37
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

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Found another drag, heh. I use windows calculator daily, but since I work with big figures, I don't click the numbers, in case I make a mistake. Instead, I use the edit option on the calculator to transfer the figures from my spreadsheet to the calculator, that way there is no room for human error. To my horror, the windows 10 calculator is different and it has no edit option. I asked several people about it, but nobody seemed to know what I was talking about. My co-worker found a version of the old calculator, she downloaded it and sent it to me. Thankfully I can now use the edit again since I have the windows 7 calculator. I have NO idea why they would have want to remove that though?
I'm not familiar with the edit option on the Win 7 calculator, so not sure if this will help, but in the Win 10 calculator, you can copy/paste in the display area.
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:50 PM   #38
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

Thanks, Peter. Yeah my co-worker figured that out on accident. I think I'll keep using the win 7 calculator though, because it looks much nicer.

One other drag, and I hope that's the last one... booting literally takes 6 minutes longer than my windows 7 did.
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

A constant 26 seconds on my rig....what type of HD do you have?
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Thanks, Peter. Yeah my co-worker figured that out on accident. I think I'll keep using the win 7 calculator though, because it looks much nicer.

One other drag, and I hope that's the last one... booting literally takes 6 minutes longer than my windows 7 did.
Hi Chris,

Turn Windows 10's absurdly named "Fast Startup" function OFF!

In my experience every now and then (but not on most startups and shutdowns) it would cause both startup and shutdown to take absurd amounts of time, during which Windows performed who knows what useless function.

To change that setting from its default of ON:

Start/Settings/System/Power&Sleep/Additional Power Settings/"Choose What The Power Button Does" (on the left side of the screen)/"Change Settings That Are Currently Unavailable."

Then deselect "Turn On Fast Startup (Recommended)," and click "Save Changes."

Having "Fast Startup" on was one of the ridiculous default settings I referred to earlier.

On all of the four machines I have upgraded from Win7 to Win10 both startup and shutdown are now faster than they were under 7.

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Old 07-28-2016, 10:53 PM   #41
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Thanks Al, just turned off... Turn On Fast Startup, ... per your info...
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Re: Time running out for free upgrate to Win 10

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Hi Chris,

Turn Windows 10's absurdly named "Fast Startup" function OFF!

In my experience every now and then (but not on most startups and shutdowns) it would cause both startup and shutdown to take absurd amounts of time, during which Windows performed who knows what useless function.

To change that setting from its default of ON:

Start/Settings/System/Power&Sleep/Additional Power Settings/"Choose What The Power Button Does" (on the left side of the screen)/"Change Settings That Are Currently Unavailable."

Then deselect "Turn On Fast Startup (Recommended)," and click "Save Changes."

Having "Fast Startup" on was one of the ridiculous default settings I referred to earlier.

On all of the four machines I have upgraded from Win7 to Win10 both startup and shutdown are now faster than they were under 7.

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Interesting. I was pretty sure I had come across this in the past and had disabled it. However when I went in to check, the option wasn't even available. My guess is that some other tweak I made must have removed the option.
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Not only do I keep Fast Start Up Disabled in Win 10, I have if disabled in the BIOS as well. Rig is rock solid!
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Not only do I keep Fast Start Up Disabled in Win 10, I have if disabled in the BIOS as well. Rig is rock solid!
Me too....also rock solid.......morning Jim
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Hey, back at ya.
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