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Old 08-27-2017, 05:53 PM   #16
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Re: Asus rog rampage vi apex

Yeah, several PCI lanes go to the I/O bridge and other M.2 slots. They should have put another PCI chip on that board.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:04 PM   #17
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Re: Asus Rampage Vl Extreme Review!

Very nice board and the best home for the 10 core. The APEX is good too but not as feature rich, as powerful in the reg dept., or as nice looking. The RVIE has a ESS Sabre DAC for onboard audio, one of the best IMO. You can tell a high quality board if it has one of those.

Here is some info. on the new M.2 slots near the RAM.
  • The APEX has 2 M.2 slots near the RAM and the RVIE has 1.
  • It requires the 10-core CPU to run both slots on the APEX mobo (44 PCI lanes).
  • The ASUS M.2 PCI card adapter has 2 card slots on it but they are different. One side in M.2 PCIe X4, the other is M.2 SATA III. You can only run one or the other. This means no RAID from a single adapter card.
  • So far, the only ASUS mobo to support M.2 PCI X4 RAID (next to the RAM) is the APEX.
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:11 PM   #18
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Re: Asus Rampage Vl Extreme Review!

Hey Skully. Home today, bunch of snowflakes shut everything down around here because of a little rain.

I was looking at the APEX myself last night and will post my impression. First, I was getting excited about the i7-8700K to build a low wattage system. But, after running AIDA64 benchmark suite, my current system with quad-channel memory and 8-cores really did a number on an i7-7700K. Mind you my 5960X is clocked at 3.9GHz whilst the i7-7700K is clocked at 4.2GHz.

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Except for losing slightly in FPU VP8, my CPU wiped the floor with the 7700K. I was expecting such for memory read/write because I have quad-channel and I was also expecting to do better in multi-core because I have double the cores but it appears to have done a lot better in 14 of 15 AIDA64 benchies.

I wanted the i7-8700K to lower system temps but I am re-thinking now from a performance standpoint.
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Old 09-12-2017, 02:14 PM   #19
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Re: Asus Rampage Vl Extreme Review!

Yea your i7-5960X did a job on the i7-7700K, you do have
quite a nice prog. I would of liked the 5960X, if I had not went for the X299
mobo's... We got through the storm's in good repair, today
just cloudy that's about it...
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:29 PM   #20
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I have a good impression of the ASUS ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX and I will start a new thread if I get it unless Skully beats me to it.

First off the APEX is priced better than the Deluxe or the upcoming Extreme. It may still be overpriced for what it carries but at least it is more affordable. I have the RVE10 and it is very nice and includes the kitchen sink but I have most everything turned off on this mobo in BIOS. This includes Audio, WiFi, Bluetooth, 2nd SATA controller, and the 2nd Ethernet controller. None of this I plan on using in the future either. Why pay $200 more for features that I won't be using?

I like the lean, serious, and down-to-business aspect of the APEX. When I am interested in a particular mobo the first thing I do is look for a snapshot of the real I/O panel.

DSC_0299-1.jpg

The rear I/O panel is pretty full with quad stacks of USB 3.0, a single high-speed ETH port, the CMOS and Back-to-BIOS buttons, a couple of newer high-speed jacks, and gold-plated connectors.

The LED lighting is conservative and more importantly, the heat sinks are for real.

DSC_0303.jpg ///// DSC_0302.jpg

The one negative that stands out in the APEX is PCIe 3.0 support in the PCI slots with i7-7820X (28-lanes CPU). You only get 2 sots that can do 3.0 at the same time. But, that is all I need for what I am running now. The reason for this is the support for the two DIMM M.2 slots next to the RAM. They take away PCI lanes from the normal slots. Matter of fact, you can only do 2-way GPU cards with a 28-lane CPU. Physically the PCI slots are not great. You only get 2x16X, 2x8X, and 1x4X slots but it would work for my means.

The other thing related to this is you lose 4 DIMM slots because of the two new M.2 sockets. For me this does not matter either. 4 DIMM's remaining is all I need and it still does quad-channel.

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Edit: Found existing thread and moved pertaining posts.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:30 PM   #21
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Re: Asus Rampage Vl Extreme Review!

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Yea your i7-5960X did a job on the i7-7700K, you do have
quite a nice prog. I would of liked the 5960X, if I had not went for the X299
mobo's... We got through the storm's in good repair, today
just cloudy that's about it...
Glad you made out OK, I wasn't too worried about Atlanta.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:36 PM   #22
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

I may be pulling the trigger on this board pretty soon.
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:48 PM   #23
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

Downloaded all the support and information files for this board.

Some interesting files (these are just Utilities)

MemTweakit V2.02.38
Kaspersky2016_V16.0.1.445
DAEMON_Tools_Lite_V10.6.0.0278
RAMDisk V2.03.00 for Windows 10 64-bit.
AISuite3 ASUS AI Suite 3 V2.00.09 Install Program for Windows 10 64-bit.
DIP5 ASUS Dual Intelligent Processors 5 V1.04.59 for Windows 10 64-bit.
PC Cleaner ASUS PC Cleaner V1.04.59 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS EZ Update V2.03.16 for Windows 10 64-bit.
File_Transfer ASUS File Transfer V1.00.08 for Windows 10 64-bit.
System_Information ASUS System Information V1.01.15 for Windows 10 64-bit.
USB BIOS Flashback ASUS USB BIOS Flashback V1.03.07 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS AURA V1.05.11 for Windows 10 64-bit.
RAMCACHE II V1.05.05 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS Ai Charger V1.05.02 for Windows 10 64-bit.
Clone Drive V1.04.02 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS ROG Connect Plus V1.00.38 for Windows 10 64-bit.
Overwolf online install for Windows 10 64-bit.
Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 Driver V1.0.0.1032 for Windows 10 64-bit.(WHQL)
Intel(R) Extreme Tuning Utility V6.3.0.202 for Windows 10 64-bit.
Asus User Experience Improvement Program V1.00.04 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ROG CPU-Z V1.79.1 for Windows 10 64-bit.
DAEMON Tools V10.5.1.0230 for Windows 10 64-bit.
ASUS EZ Installer
Use this tool V1.03.13 to create a Windows 7 installation file with USB 3.0 drivers preloaded for 200 series motherboards.


I guess Intel does have a driver for Skylake-X. A review once said there was not one.
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I may be pulling the trigger on this board pretty soon.
Great, maybe we both will have the same mobo's again...
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Great, maybe we both will have the same mobo's again...
Yeah I think I am going to go for it. If I do I will probably be the only person with that board who doesn't OC. The i7-7820X will do 4.5GHz stock with Turbo 3.0 driver and that is fine for me.

Intel Coreâ„¢ i7-7820X X-series Processor (11M Cache, up to 4.30 GHz) Product Specifications

I have the board, CPU, and new memory all picked out. For memory I am choosing Kingston HyperX 2666MHz with low-latency.
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Re: Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX

Nice memory good looking sticks...
The i7-7820X is a great cpu for the money.
I had thought hard on getting the 7820X, I just wanted
to have the very best cpu, and fastest there is for a brief
time...
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Nice memory good looking sticks...
The i7-7820X is a great cpu for the money.
I had thought hard on getting the 7820X, I just wanted
to have the very best cpu, and fastest there is for a brief
time...
Yeah, I like Kingston. They were prevalent when it all started and were industry favorites. Intel recommended Kingston exclusively at one time and they were as dependable as Intel. When verified memory sticks were listed for Intel boards Kingston was always first on the list. Micron made good memory sticks as well. Now Kingston is still in cahoots with Intel. Their first high-performance SSD was an Intel clone or vise-versa. Anyway, I have used HyperX before (4 sticks) and they worked great. They are also listed in the APEX memory QVL. They have a wide line of gaming products now. Kind of reminds me of HP. There would be no wrong in owning HyperX or HP gaming gear. I like their mice and keyboards.

HyperX - Gaming Headsets, Keyboards More – WE’RE ALL GAMERS

The memory I spec'd out has Nanya memory IC's inside. Nanya seems a good memory IC company based in Taiwan and offices in Japan and the U.S.
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I posted this above. "The one negative that stands out in the APEX is PCIe 3.0 support in the PCI slots with i7-7820X (28-lanes CPU). You only get 2 sots that can do 3.0 at the same time. But, that is all I need for what I am running now. The reason for this is the support for the two DIMM M.2 slots next to the RAM. They take away PCI lanes from the normal slots. Matter of fact, you can only do 2-way GPU cards with a 28-lane CPU. Physically the PCI slots are not great. You only get 2x16X, 2x8X, and 1x4X slots but it would work for my means."

I the stated above based on looking at the APEX mobo manual here.

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Apparently the mobo manual is completely wrong though. Everywhere I look pictures have the APEX with 4 X16 slots.

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Having 4 X16 slots is optimum and puts the APEX in a much better position. The APEX allows for 28-lanes with the i7-7820X.
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With my X7900 it would be different, all I'd need is 2x PCI slots,
for GPU and me 750 1.2 drive. Along with 2X m.2 on the card by the memory.
I'd want the 2X m.2 ssd for RAID-O, and use only the ones that go to the cpu...
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You know I thought deeply about getting this mobo. I wanted this board when I first saw it back in August. That was before I ever heard of the Intel Optane SSD 900P. I have read up on the 900P and Intel mentions additional requirements for the Optane memory which is on the 900P.

Intel® Optane™ Technology

I seem to be running fine and fast so I am not worried but I wonder why Intel lists all it's new CPU's and chipsets as 'Optane Memory Ready'? I have not heard anything contrary to running on X99 so far and I have not seen any specail softare for the 900P. No SSD Toolbox and no IRST to download, just the NVMe driver.

Anyway, the APEX with the 7820X (which BTW is $444 tomorrow) is heads above my 5960X CPU and that is at stock. With the new CPU, 2666MHz RAM, and Optane Memory support along with other new bells and whistles, there is ample reason for me to switch to the APEX. But I am not. I am going to enjoy what I got and take a cruise like JT mentioned. In a year or more Intel will bring a new CPU for the X299. It should be a Tick (10nm size reduction) in the form of Cannonlake-X. These should plop right into the X299 so I may upgrade at that time.

Also, Jim if you are reading. I would wait for Z370. I believe ASUS will have a WS out at that time plus the big news, there will be an 8-core introduced for Z370. Z370 will be the next big thing coming from Intel mid-2018 I believe.
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